Bahamuts fluid list of mono GSC

[Hive Bahamut]

This might be the most I can come up with for 9th. Super spammy and same but ideally..



++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids - Genestealer Cults) [91 PL, 11CP, 1,996pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Cult Creed: The Twisted Helix

Detachment Command Cost

+ HQ +

Magus [5 PL, -1CP, 85pts]: Power: Mass Hypnosis, Power: Psychic Stimulus, Stratagem: The Cult's Psyche

Patriarch [8 PL, 150pts]: Amulet of the Voidwyrm, Familiar, Power: Mass Hypnosis, Power: Might From Beyond, Warlord

+ Troops +

Acolyte Hybrids [6 PL, 160pts]: Cult Icon
. 5x Acolyte Hybrid (Hand Flamer): 5x Blasting Charges, 5x Cultist Knife, 5x Hand Flamer, 5x Rending Claw
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Saw
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Saw
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Saw
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Saw
. Acolyte Leader: Cultist Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [6 PL, 160pts]: Cult Icon
. 5x Acolyte Hybrid (Hand Flamer): 5x Blasting Charges, 5x Cultist Knife, 5x Hand Flamer, 5x Rending Claw
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Leader: Cultist Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [6 PL, 180pts]: Cult Icon
. 5x Acolyte Hybrid (Hand Flamer): 5x Blasting Charges, 5x Cultist Knife, 5x Hand Flamer, 5x Rending Claw
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Leader: Cultist Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [6 PL, 160pts]: Cult Icon
. 5x Acolyte Hybrid (Hand Flamer): 5x Blasting Charges, 5x Cultist Knife, 5x Hand Flamer, 5x Rending Claw
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Saw
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Saw
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Saw
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Saw
. Acolyte Leader: Cultist Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [6 PL, 160pts]: Cult Icon
. 5x Acolyte Hybrid (Hand Flamer): 5x Blasting Charges, 5x Cultist Knife, 5x Hand Flamer, 5x Rending Claw
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Leader: Cultist Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [6 PL, 180pts]: Cult Icon
. 5x Acolyte Hybrid (Hand Flamer): 5x Blasting Charges, 5x Cultist Knife, 5x Hand Flamer, 5x Rending Claw
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Leader: Cultist Knife, Hand Flamer

+ Elites +

Hybrid Metamorphs [6 PL, 140pts]: Cult Icon
. Hybrid Metamorph: Hand Flamer, Metamorph Whip, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Hand Flamer, Metamorph Whip, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Hand Flamer, Metamorph Whip, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Hand Flamer, Metamorph Whip, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Hand Flamer, Metamorph Whip, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Hand Flamer, Metamorph Whip, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Hand Flamer, Metamorph Whip, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Hand Flamer, Metamorph Whip, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Hand Flamer, Metamorph Whip, Rending Claw
. Metamorph Leader: Hand Flamer, Metamorph Whip, Rending Claw

+ Fast Attack +

Atalan Jackals [4 PL, 48pts]
. Atalan Jackal: Cultist Knife, Shotgun
. Atalan Jackal: Cultist Knife, Shotgun
. Atalan Jackal: Cultist Knife, Shotgun
. Atalan Leader: Cultist Knife, Shotgun

Atalan Jackals [4 PL, 48pts]
. Atalan Jackal: Cultist Knife, Shotgun
. Atalan Jackal: Cultist Knife, Shotgun
. Atalan Jackal: Cultist Knife, Shotgun
. Atalan Leader: Cultist Knife, Shotgun

+ Dedicated Transport +

Goliath Truck [4 PL, 75pts]

Goliath Truck [4 PL, 75pts]

Goliath Truck [4 PL, 75pts]

Goliath Truck [4 PL, 75pts]

Goliath Truck [4 PL, 75pts]

Goliath Truck [4 PL, 75pts]

Goliath Truck [4 PL, 75pts]

++ Total: [91 PL, 11CP, 1,996pts] ++

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So this list dumps everything GSC doesn't do well (shooting) and doubles down on Codex Acolytes in trucks. Metamorphs are there for 1st wave and they pay less for hand flamers/fight on death.

I do not have 7 trucks but will proxy to try next run I think. Simple, redundant and zero reliance on PA.

[beetlejuice]

TH for the extra S? The advance bonus isnt as useful when everything is in trucks.

Considered pauper princes? Free re rolls to hit is more efficient than the occasional bonus to wound. Especially when running cutters. You still have might from beyond when needed.

Would save you 70 points on icons that you can spend on another metamorph unit for example.

[Hive Bahamut]

The +2" advance allows at least 1 Acolyte squad to advance and assault each turn for: 3+6+2+D6" then 2D6" charge. It also helps the bikes pick up first turn engage or just gopher an objective. Still salty about only faction without vehicle traits but oh well.

S5 is still the magic number for wounding and makes all the Mining Weapons hit at S9 base. With Orks and Custodes and Bullgryn and Bladeguard floating around I think wounding on 4+ is more useful all around. Might from Beyond and now your base infantry is wounding T3 on 2+.

This is all theory still but no one asset is more than 200. You SHOULD be able to leverage this with Lying in Wait and PA as movement options instead of reliance. Going to try once I get all settled into new place.

[Hive Bahamut]

Had 2 more games against AM (2000) and Custodes (1000)

Twisted Helix Bat:

Patriarch w/Familiar
Mass Hypnosis/Psychic Stimulus
Bio Alchemist and Amulet of Voidwyrm

Magus w/ Cult Psyche
Mass Hypnosis and Might From Beyond

2x 10 Acolytes w/4 Saws, Icon
10x Acolytes w/4 Drills, Icon
10x Acolytes w/4 Cutters, Icon
10x Neophytes w/2 Lasers (added in after)

2x 5 Aberrants w/Heavy Improvised

2x 4 Atalan Jackals

2x Rockgrinders w/Incinerator

5x Goliath Trucks

Typical Militarum blowout but managed to get 69-81?. Can't beat this army most of the time. 2x Punisher/Basilisk and Pask/plasma is too much. Impossible to trade up against. Happy with outcome as losing 1/4-1/3 army a turn hurts.

I did get to Cutter chop 2 Bullgryn apart for the first time getting to use the Cutters.

The Custodes game used a micro variant of that list.

Patriarch
Magus

2x Saws
1x Drills

1x Atalan Jackal

3x Goliath

This was tactically probably one of my best games. Everything went to plan and I FINALLY got to hit a Knight with Drills and they almost 1 shot it, with a lone Drill finishing it off after the Knight failed to step on it. Died to morale.

75:38? for GSC

This army isn't for the feint of heart but in practice I am not leaving the game with less than 60. This has been a tremendous project, minimizing waste and actions.

[Hive Bahamut]

Well I will be damned.. You must now be MONO Cult to gain access to the army rule Crossfire. Huh.. Neat.

Let's continue this adventure together! Now you must all suffer with me!

Just drew up some numbers and my 3500 is closer to 4000 now.

[kazetanade]

Looking forward to see your mechanised adventure. Its looking way better now lol.

[Hive Bahamut]

Alright now that I have watched probably 12 hours of videos and a handful of batreps (Ooph GSC players..) I want to start chumming around my list. I want to come into it with a clear mind of Cults, and concepts.

We are going to start with a Battalion of Twisted Helix. Looking at the Creeds and Crossfire it really makes you want to lean into Neophytes. I am not sure I like this idea, as the shooting may have been picked up a bit, but I really feel except under certain Cults Neophyte damage is actually kind of a trap (so are Aberrants ) We have some here to proc Crossfire, but this is more so we can take advantage of some chip damage, and the Strats that help our melee (KEY part of Crossfire. No Overwatch and Fight Last is super welcome with GSC.) Replacing the Jackal Alphus of old for the Ridgerunners for free as well. I will try to explain in depth concepts for everything and could really use help with missed pieces. Let's get started:

Patriarch 140 Mass Hypnosis/Might From Beyond/Mutagenic Deviation
WLT: Bio-Alchemist
Relic: Elixir of Prime Specimen
Primus 80

10x Acolytes w/Drills 130 (A Trap Sprung* 15)
10x Acolytes w/Cutters 130
2x5 Acolytes w/Hand Flamers 120 (Excavate 20)
19x Neophytes w/Shotguns 114

3x10 Purestrain Genestealers 420 (They Came From Below 10)
Nexos 50
Relic: Cranial Inlay
Kelermorph 80
Relic: Wyrmtooth?

2x4 Atalan Jackals 120
3x RidgeRunners w/Heavy Mining Laser and Flare Launchers 240

3x Goliath 330

Alright so now to explain what is going on. First off, the points rises across the board is actually really tricky. I love what Aberrants and Rockgrinders do on paper, but can't give them attention yet.

Patriarch: Obvious choice. Not much to explain here

Primus: Same as above, although it might get dumped for the Iconward. Ironic now that we finally get rerolls when most armies are able to shut them off now. I would have preferred the +1 to hit still.

Acolytes: The Cutters and the Drills seem great in the new book. Time out for the Saws with all the D-1 out there. I avoid D2 entirely in this list unintentionally, but I believe it carries purpose. The Handflamer squads are there to action or setup a Crossfire/Exposed token.

Neophytes: I would love to squeeze some Mining gear in here, but they don't really fit with Helix. I will be looking into more with Hivevcult/Rusted Claw lists. Shotguns are just ablative wounds for the character moshpit.

Purestrains: The fact they are in a Genestealer Cult list feeds my soul. One unit is up front with the pre-game move/underground, while the other 2 are in the Trucks on the flanks. S5 and 9" Genestealers... MMMM.

Nexos: He is here to regen CP and spread the buffs to the very spread out army. I would argue lynchpin to this style.

Kelermorph: Love this model, and if Abominant didn't make it they had to go in. I think the Wyrmtooth is grand and compliments avoiding D2.

Atalan Jackals: MVP upgrades in new book. REALLLy want to give them power weapons so everything is at least AP-2, but ran out of points. Scout move makes them perfect gophers. Thank you GW.

Goliaths: Genestealer missile launchers! 3"+8+1+6*+2D6=


Secondaries:
SO this is where I will need to make sure I have everything covered.

ROD: should max this every game. Basically our trade off for enemy maxing Grind against us, except they are ahead 3 points here. Bummer but not many armies can do this one this easy.

To the Last: This looks like a sneaky secondary for Clandestine Goals (if allowed.) I will have to double check numbers, but I believe that would be the Ridgerunners, Patriarch and a squad of Purestrains? Even if it is only 2 that is ok. 10 points is good.

: I REALLLY want to put a codex secondary here but I haven't wrapped my head around those that much yet. They are seemingly supplementary for this army instead of being auto picks like some. We really could have used a strong one here, to help counter Grind them down/assassinate

[niiai]

Twisted helix was my jam at end of 8th edition codex. S5 was so good. The fact that purestrains get it now, well, it is a bit dirty.

Genestealer are great in general nids. Only downside is they get shot. But trucks cover that (and 3" disembark. And a big 12" push first turn.) I have not thought about it like that, but when you articulated it, it sounded great.

One bane of my genestealers VS orks was that I would charge 2 units a turn. And he would interrupt the second unit of genestealers that could not take a punch. Sadness ensured. But the crossfire into fight last puts a stop to that.

Are you off some points in your list, or miswritten something? Trucks are 90, rockgrinders are 110. Both are named Goliath.

[kazetanade]

He's off points.

Bahamut you're missing Metas. Metas are EXCEPTIONAL in TH because:

1.Exploding hits(biophagis) into autowounds (spell) helps increase your damage output by non-negligible amounts

2.S6 in TH means they go into Custodes range, and are killer for most types of elites.

3. They can take Primus buffs to be really consistent, and are better missles/obj sitters than Purestrains vs people who will brawl, since they fight on death.


Guns in TH are a bit of a trap. Yes, you'll trade your -1 for +1 in crossfire; that's not just chip damage anymore on a unit of 20. Bring in Seismic Cannons and use Overcharge on them, with Primus reroll 1 aura, it's decent. More than this I do not recommend for TH.

Cutters in your list hit on 4+ rr1s if you get a Primus buff - I'm not big on that. The +1S also barely registers, eventhough it does help base Acolytes -a lot-, just like Purestrains.

GRINDERS. GRINDERS ARE SO GOOD.

Edit: last thing - I think TH is special in that it let's you set up TWO combat characters. TH WLT RELIC combo on Patty and Abberance + Biomorphic on Primus is a very neat combo and makes these 2 guys not ignorable.

[Hive Bahamut]

Jan 14, 2022 1:09:13 GMT niiai said:

Twisted helix was my jam at end of 8th edition codex. S5 was so good. The fact that purestrains get it now, well, it is a bit dirty.

Genestealer are great in general nids. Only downside is they get shot. But trucks cover that (and 3" disembark. And a big 12" push first turn.) I have not thought about it like that, but when you articulated it, it sounded great.

One bane of my genestealers VS orks was that I would charge 2 units a turn. And he would interrupt the second unit of genestealers that could not take a punch. Sadness ensured. But the crossfire into fight last puts a stop to that.

Are you off some points in your list, or miswritten something? Trucks are 90, rockgrinders are 110. Both are named Goliath.

I love so many of the options. For my playstyle though I feel like starting at Helix is good. Movement wins games, S+1 is great on Purestrains, Acolytes and Grinders, and wound on 3+ is a nice stealth defense upgrade I like more than 6++. Remember those Grinders/Trucks move 13".

Most definitely off a few points I am sure. Just mashing together from screenshots. I thought the list was 1994 or something close. Shaved the 20th shotgun off for points as well as jackal melee. Somehow S5 -3 2A Jackals make me smile. Swole skirmishers on dirtbikes. Man this codex so rad.

Mad Max Hybrids controlled by Space Vampires *drool*

Side note: Adrian won against Bridger on Tablteop Titans with 1 point ironically using a similar list. I even caught this one live to comment. Lots of love! No salt!

I can't wait to burnout my brain IRL. This spiderwebbing is always so meh.

Looks like I still am going forward with 2x new Box and 1 truck for 3 Grinders. 20 Shotguns + Options (2x Seismic, 2x Stubber *shh* and 2x Webber for 6x each special and 4x Heavy) and 15 Metamorphs. Aberrants will be built to round number and options. Army complete.

Do I sell the Brood bros I slow burnt on upgrading/painting or buy the Artillery finally after painting it up? Hmm.. Me likey Crossfire. Let's see what the Militarum Codex does before we touch this thought further..

I am starting to really like the idea of Grinders with either 5x Aberrants or Metamorphs. They suit it here well for Metas, 5++ for 1CP in Cog or Pauper seems their best home for Aberrants

Edit add* Missed the Psychic bit thank you Kaze! Makes the idea even more sound.


++ Battalion Detachment -3CP (Tyranids - Genestealer Cults) [118 PL, -3CP, 2,092pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Command Cost [-3CP]

+ HQ +

Patriarch [7 PL, 135pts]

Primus [4 PL, 85pts]

+ Troops +

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Acolyte Hybrid (Hand Flamer): 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Cultist Knife, 4x Hand Flamer, 4x Rending Claw
. Acolyte Leader: Cultist Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Acolyte Hybrid (Hand Flamer): 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Cultist Knife, 4x Hand Flamer, 4x Rending Claw
. Acolyte Leader: Cultist Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [6 PL, 140pts]
. 5x Acolyte Hybrid: 5x Autopistol, 5x Blasting Charges, 5x Cultist Knife, 5x Rending Claw
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Autopistol, Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Autopistol, Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Autopistol, Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Autopistol, Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cultist Knife

Neophyte Hybrids [7 PL, 66pts]
. 10x Neophyte Hybrid (Shotgun): 10x Autopistol, 10x Blasting Charges, 10x Shotgun
. Neophyte Leader: Autopistol, Cultist Knife

+ Elites +

Biophagus [2 PL, 40pts]

Hybrid Metamorphs [3 PL, 65pts]
. Hybrid Metamorph: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw
. Metamorph Leader: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw

Hybrid Metamorphs [3 PL, 65pts]
. Hybrid Metamorph: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw
. Metamorph Leader: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw

Hybrid Metamorphs [3 PL, 65pts]
. Hybrid Metamorph: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw
. Hybrid Metamorph: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw
. Metamorph Leader: Autopistol, Metamorph Talon, Rending Claw

Nexos [3 PL, 55pts]

Purestrain Genestealers [8 PL, 150pts]
. 10x Purestrain Genestealer: 10x Rending Claw

Purestrain Genestealers [8 PL, 150pts]
. 10x Purestrain Genestealer: 10x Rending Claw

Purestrain Genestealers [8 PL, 150pts]
. 10x Purestrain Genestealer: 10x Rending Claw

+ Fast Attack +

Achilles Ridgerunners [12 PL, 210pts]
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Flare Launcher, Heavy Mining Laser
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Flare Launcher, Heavy Mining Laser
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Flare Launcher, Heavy Mining Laser

Atalan Jackals [4 PL, 48pts]
. Atalan Jackal
. Atalan Jackal
. Atalan Jackal
. Atalan Leader

Atalan Jackals [4 PL, 48pts]
. Atalan Jackal
. Atalan Jackal
. Atalan Jackal
. Atalan Leader

+ Heavy Support +

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 95pts]: Heavy Seismic?

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 95pts]: Heavy Seismic?

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 95pts]: Heavy Seismic?

+ Dedicated Transport +

Goliath Truck [4 PL, 75pts]

Goliath Truck [4 PL, 75pts]

Goliath Truck [4 PL, 75pts]

++ Total: [118 PL, -3CP, 2,092pts] ++

This should be 1995 with 3x Planning. Excavate, They Came From Below, and the one that is 3d6.

Metamorphs in Grinders and Purestrains/Drill into trucks. Vroom vroom and Biophagus can upgrade where needed.

[gorsameth]

You could do 1 Incinerator if your bringing 3 rockgrinders, its can be good to have but in general I would go Heavy Seismic yes, especially in your list that has very little shooting otherwise.

I'd prefer the missile launcher over the mining laser for RR's. d3 shots, d6 damage is just so unreliable. Yes the str 6 sucks if your shooting into T7+ but Exposed should mean you need to 4's at worse.

Id advise finding 15 points for 3e power on your patriarch. Fallback and Charge is really good to have access to. You can lose 2 potentially even 3 hand flamers from your 5 man units. 2 flamers + grenade + 2 pistols is a good chance for 5 hits and 3 flamers is not 100% but close enough.


As for 3e secondary. I'm thinking Engage or Stanglehold. We should be good at clearing and getting on to objectives (staying there a full turn is a different problem but Stranglehold doesn't care about that).

The codex secondaries are sadly simply not good.

[kazetanade]

++ Battalion Detachment -3CP (Tyranids - Genestealer Cults - 2022) [113 PL, -3CP, 2,171pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Cult Creeds

Detachment Command Cost [-3CP]

+ No Force Org Slot +

Biophagus [2 PL, 40pts]

Nexos [3 PL, 50pts]

+ HQ +

Patriarch [7 PL, 140pts]: Power: Broodvolt Surge (Aura), Power: Last Gasp, Power: Mutagenic Deviation, Power: Synaptic Blast, Power: Undermine, Power: Unescapable Decay

Primus [4 PL, 80pts]

+ Troops +

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 60pts]
. 4x Acolyte Hybrid w/ Hand Flamer: 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Cult Claws and Knife, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Hand Flamer
. Acolyte Leader: Cult Claws and Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 60pts]
. 4x Acolyte Hybrid w/ Hand Flamer: 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Cult Claws and Knife, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Hand Flamer
. Acolyte Leader: Cult Claws and Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [6 PL, 130pts]
. 5x Acolyte Hybrid: 5x Autopistol, 5x Blasting Charges, 5x Cult Claws and Knife, 5x Frag Grenades
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cult Claws and Knife

Neophyte Hybrids [4 PL, 60pts]
. 9x Neophyte Hybrid w/ Shotgun: 9x Autopistol, 9x Blasting Charges, 9x Frag Grenades, 9x Shotgun
. Neophyte Leader: Shotgun

+ Elites +

Hybrid Metamorphs [3 PL, 60pts]
. 4x Hybrid Metamorph: 4x Autopistol, 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Metamorph Mutations
. Metamorph Leader: Autopistol, Metamorph Mutations

Hybrid Metamorphs [3 PL, 60pts]
. 4x Hybrid Metamorph: 4x Autopistol, 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Metamorph Mutations
. Metamorph Leader: Autopistol, Metamorph Mutations

Hybrid Metamorphs [3 PL, 60pts]
. 4x Hybrid Metamorph: 4x Autopistol, 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Metamorph Mutations
. Metamorph Leader: Autopistol, Metamorph Mutations

Purestrain Genestealers [7 PL, 140pts]: 10x Purestrain Genestealer

Purestrain Genestealers [7 PL, 140pts]: 10x Purestrain Genestealer

Purestrain Genestealers [7 PL, 140pts]: 10x Purestrain Genestealer

+ Fast Attack +

Achilles Ridgerunners [12 PL, 240pts]
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Achilles Missile Launcher, Flare Launcher
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Achilles Missile Launcher, Flare Launcher
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Achilles Missile Launcher, Flare Launcher

Atalan Jackals [3 PL, 48pts]
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Leader: Atalan Small Arms

Atalan Jackals [3 PL, 48pts]
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Leader: Atalan Small Arms

+ Heavy Support +

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 115pts]: Cache of Demolition Charges, Heavy Seismic Cannon

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 115pts]: Cache of Demolition Charges, Clearance Incinerator

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 115pts]: Cache of Demolition Charges, Heavy Seismic Cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Goliath Truck [5 PL, 90pts]

Goliath Truck [5 PL, 90pts]

Goliath Truck [5 PL, 90pts]

++ Total: [113 PL, -3CP, 2,171pts] ++

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I've added your list into my bscribe with current stuff. It's over by nearly 200pts. I'll paste another post for recommendations.

[kazetanade]

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids - Genestealer Cults - 2022) [102 PL, 9CP, 2,000pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Cult Creeds: The Twisted Helix

Detachment Command Cost

+ No Force Org Slot +

Nexos [3 PL, 50pts]

Sanctus [3 PL, 70pts]: Cult Sniper Rifle

+ HQ +

Magus [4 PL, -1CP, 90pts]: Familiar, Gene-Sire's Gifts, Power: Mass Hypnosis, Power: Mind Control, Power: Mutagenic Deviation, Prowling Agitant, The Unwilling Orb

Patriarch [7 PL, -1CP, 150pts]: Elixir of the Prime Specimen, Familiar, Leaders of the Cult, Power: Might From Beyond, Power: Mutagenic Deviation, Power: Psychic Stimulus, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Bio-alchemist

Primus [4 PL, -1CP, 80pts]: Biomorph Adaptation, Gene-Sire's Gifts, Hand of Aberrance

+ Troops +

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 60pts]
. 4x Acolyte Hybrid w/ Hand Flamer: 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Cult Claws and Knife, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Hand Flamer
. Acolyte Leader: Cult Claws and Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 60pts]
. 4x Acolyte Hybrid w/ Hand Flamer: 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Cult Claws and Knife, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Hand Flamer
. Acolyte Leader: Cult Claws and Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [7 PL, 145pts]: A Trap Sprung
. 5x Acolyte Hybrid: 5x Autopistol, 5x Blasting Charges, 5x Cult Claws and Knife, 5x Frag Grenades
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cult Claws and Knife

Neophyte Hybrids [4 PL, 60pts]
. 9x Neophyte Hybrid: 9x Autogun, 9x Autopistol, 9x Blasting Charges, 9x Frag Grenades
. Neophyte Leader: Autogun

+ Elites +

Hybrid Metamorphs [3 PL, 60pts]
. 4x Hybrid Metamorph: 4x Autopistol, 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Metamorph Mutations
. Metamorph Leader: Autopistol, Metamorph Mutations

Hybrid Metamorphs [3 PL, 60pts]
. 4x Hybrid Metamorph: 4x Autopistol, 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Metamorph Mutations
. Metamorph Leader: Autopistol, Metamorph Mutations

Hybrid Metamorphs [3 PL, 60pts]
. 4x Hybrid Metamorph: 4x Autopistol, 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Metamorph Mutations
. Metamorph Leader: Autopistol, Metamorph Mutations

Purestrain Genestealers [7 PL, 140pts]: 10x Purestrain Genestealer

Purestrain Genestealers [8 PL, 150pts]: 10x Purestrain Genestealer, They Came From Below

+ Fast Attack +

Achilles Ridgerunners [12 PL, 240pts]
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Achilles Missile Launcher, Flare Launcher
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Achilles Missile Launcher, Flare Launcher
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Achilles Missile Launcher, Flare Launcher

Atalan Jackals [5 PL, 90pts]
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms, Demolition Charge
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Leader: Atalan Power Weapon, Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Wolfquad: Atalan Incinerator

Atalan Jackals [5 PL, 90pts]
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms, Demolition Charge
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Leader: Atalan Power Weapon, Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Wolfquad: Atalan Incinerator

+ Heavy Support +

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 115pts]: Cache of Demolition Charges, Heavy Seismic Cannon

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 115pts]: Cache of Demolition Charges, Clearance Incinerator

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 115pts]: Cache of Demolition Charges, Heavy Seismic Cannon

++ Total: [102 PL, 9CP, 2,000pts] ++

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Here are some simple recommendations on what you can do with this build, without too many changes. I'm assuming you've seen the new rules and know what the upgrades are.

[Hive Bahamut]

How did your BScribe do that? Mine still says waiting for their update. Also, thank you for the points cleanup. I could have waited but instead wanted to get a feel for this PHD required codex before I got ahold of it. I feel like the Codex and I are no longer staring each other down, it is either wrestling or breeding now. Not sure, they are always so similar..

Swapping the Trucks to Grinders altogether is something I have been brainstorming, but only recently have decided I like. Trucks at 90 just don't roll off the tongue the same, and Aco's have been reigned in a bit (Finally.) Those changes in that list are nice, although I salivate at the idea of 3x10 Purestrains. I guess you could drop the Magus and both quads and fit them in. Hmm... You snuck the Weapons onto the Jackals too, nice.

The Magus adds so much different utility and that free Trait is wasted otherwise as well. I like it. By swapping the Biophagus out (So badass now but for Aberrants which are oddly enough Pauper/Cog again and never Helix now,) and replacing it with the Sanctus does make sense as well. Hindsight, that model does nothing in this list. Sanctus holds an objective and pew pews nice for Crossfire a second unit free, this character combo seems amazing. I feel like GSC is just going to have a party of like 3 chars hanging out in a corner somewhere everygame. Nexos passing out buffs and CP for the Gestalt Stratagem is so flexible.

Codex should be here today, let's try to see with book in hand if this makes sense.

Edit: Codex arrived 5 mins after post. Time to digest

[purestrain]

Man I love genecult but its uber expensive to just field good troops... I'd never afford these lists