Some new 6th rumours, how would they effect us?

[Davor]

We should get a new codex to hopefully make the Pyrovore usable and the Tryong tunnel to be more effective.

Right now, I can wait for a new codex. I can still loose every game, I don't care for that, but the game has become boring because of last turn vehicle rush.

I am hoping we have scoring every turn and you have to be outside of a vehicle to do so. This will help out a bit. 6th edition will either suck me in to buy more stuff, or quit GW for good.

[General Chips]

You never leave Davor...they will always find you...

[Space is pretty big]

Jun 9, 2012 5:20:31 GMT General Chips said:

You never leave Davor...they will always find you...

Interestingly, I haven't spent money on GW in nearly 2 years.

Thing is, from my semantic viewpoint, I don't really see the 40k community as something GW owns. Even though I'm here, I look at it as being part of the hive, not part of GW...

[Davor]

Jun 9, 2012 5:20:31 GMT General Chips said:

You never leave Davor...they will always find you...

Well that is true. I have quit a few times before, just thank God, I never got rid of my stuff.

Thing is Hordes are wispering to me. . Like funny how GW can't talk about future starter box sets but PP is already talking about and telling us about their Hordes Starter set.

I am so excited for the Hordes Starter set now.

Well here is hoping 6th edition becomes fun for ME.

[N.I.B.]

Fresh news:

Whitehat wrote:More Info (unsure if others have mentioned it however)

Plastic Plaguebearers & Nurglings, Finecast Blue Scribes in August (amongst what Im presuming is that metal daemons will be released with Finecast Versions.)
Finecast will replace all metal models in the next year (unsure if that means specialist)

6th ed - a few morsels
Random Charges are 2D6 pick the highest (unless going through Difficult Terrain where its 3D6 and you drop the highest.) Move through cover I believe adds an extra D6

Vehicles are WS0 if stationary, and WS1 if they move, no matter how far they go.

Vehicles go the same distance in the movement phase (I believe 6" and fire everything regardless if fast or not) but in the shooting phase can make an extra move (apparently some kept forgetting what vehicles moved to fast to fire...

Vehicles cannot contest (unsure if scoring units in transports can

6 Missions and 3 deployment types (2 of the deployments are the same as current, Spearhead & Pitched Battle.)

Troops are the only ones that can score (including of course 'scoring units')

5+ Cover save for most things including ruins.

Allies rules are in, but its meant to be for team games (ie separate force org chart, distrusted ally rules similar to Fantasy)

Percentages are *not* in

Wound Allocation is closest to furthest.

Dueling is similar to challenges in fantasy but contrary to earlier rumors, they don't replace Combat res, just add to sides. A IC can challenge another IC in the same combat even if not in base to base. If the defending IC refuses, he simply cannot attack that turn, if he does he counts as being in b2b and no one else can hurt him apart from the attacking IC. I'm guessing this is to offset the Wound Allocation rules

Preferred Enemy is including shooting and you may reroll wound rolls of a 1 (either shooting or combat)

Rapid Fire weapons may now can shoot at long range while moving. restriction on assaulting after rapid firing remains.

Jump Infantry get a free strike at I10 when they charge into combat

Psychic Power Decks using a dice system similar to Fantasy.

Flyers are in.

FNP drops to 5+ Save.

I'm calling it now - Infantryhammer

I don't know why you would call it Infantryhammer, but I like it if vehicles cannot contest. I've lost many games were I've dominated only to fail to wreck a turbo boosted skimmer contesting an objective.
But I'm not sure it would make up for nerfed cover saves and 3,5" charges (the average of two dice). My guess is that charges will actually be 6+1D6".

Percentages 'not' in - sounds logic. Why fix what is not broken?

Preferred Enemy sick good - excuse me while I dust off voraciousapathy's original deathstar with OA Tyrant, 3x3 Hive Guards and 2 T-fexes.

[Voice of Reason]

*if true*

Preferred enemy will give a small boost to devilgaunts, and Hivetyrants will be a bit more ubiquitous and pretty standard in Nid shooty armies. (tyrant +warrior prime in warrior groups means those warriors will go from 50% hit to 66.67% hit (with the prime) to 77.77% or 7/9, and devilgaunts will go from 50% hit to 58.3% or 7/12)

venomthropes are now "standard" moving cover as opposed to "not great" moving cover.

If allies rules are in with the distrusted ally rules - tyranids WILL get the short end of the stick there.

Jump infantry boost means even better gargoyles, and depending on how it's worded, an extra attack for flyrants and Harpies (maybe even flying rippers).

Rapid fire upgrade means more mobile armies and less dependence on transports to be able to apply firepower on a target (this will hurt nids)


with this crop of rumors, it sounds like they're aiming for a more fast paced game that encourages you to remove models quickly. You'll probably want more bodies to be able to soak the wounds that you're inevitably going to take.

[N.I.B.]

Yup that's the 8th ed fantasy route - more models on the table, longer charge lengths (I mean to say 6 + the highest of 2D6" in my previous post), deadlier shooting, deadlier combat.

Still, I'm taking salt. Sounds like rehashed pancake edition rumours.

[Lanesend]

Yay,............Rapid Fire upgrade,................

I was actually thinking that a mech-down was automaticaly good for nids, but the latest rumors I hear say otherwise.

Of course, we will only know how all these things work out when we see the bigger picture.

[Helonion]

My local indy store has a book on their doorstep, so being as we can now post about the book, should we not relocate?

[voraciousapathy]

Oh, wow. Luckily, I have oodles of vehicles AND infantry for 3 different armies. Tee-hee.

[Davor]

I thought the "ally" rule would be for Doubles events or what not. So I believe, NO, one player using 2 codicies or 2 different armies in his list. It will be him/her and his/her partner.

[N.I.B.]

Update:

I mistyped re: the cover saves. Ruins are 4+, the vast majority of stuff is 5+

I did not mistype WS1 for moving vehicles, they are not WS10 if they moved - flyers might be different; not sure.

Preferred Enemy change of reroll 1's to wound is in addition to current rules for Preferred Enemy (plus reroll missed hits in the shooting phase)

Flyers are noted in the BRB changing some of the existing vehicles (Summary sheet in the back)

[coredump]

Hmmm......
IF TRUE
*JUmp infantry get 1 extra attack on charge at I10*
*S8 on T4 does 2 wounds, not ID*

Then Shrikes just got a *lot* better.

[Space is pretty big]

Jun 12, 2012 15:04:16 GMT coredump said:

Hmmm......
IF TRUE
*JUmp infantry get 1 extra attack on charge at I10*
*S8 on T4 does 2 wounds, not ID*

Then Shrikes just got a *lot* better.

Uuuu I forgot about Eldar, thats gonna be interesting.

[Jabberwocky]

S10 will actually do 2 wounds per hit on our MCs with this new rule too. Maybe we'll see a bit more of it.