Who Will Rule The Universe?

[TheSwarm]

When all the wars are said and done who will rule the universe? Why do you think this? I think nids will ultimitly win the 40k wars because they vastly outnumber every other spieces and can assimilate all biomass, including fallen nids, to regenerate and expand their broods.

TheSwarm
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[Titan Zero]

for the squishey humans!

[ZergLord]

I have to go with the Necrons. They are immortal machines led by C'tan, goddammit!

[Trygon]

Chaos have demons leaking into the materail realm all the time. Billion upon billions of necrons are raising to kill everthing. Tyranid are multiplying all the time and are endless. Orks are so plenteful and nemurous they are owning everything. I can't choose!

[shadowdragonswarm]

I wouldn't say Orks as theyre too stupid to beat the 'nids.

I'd say it's between the necrons and tyranids, if we can consume them w/out them phasing out of our digestive pools o whatever, then we should have them too.

And I'm sure we can out-evolve and outnumber any thing that comes from the warp, especielly once the chaos forces go down and less demonic influence being leaked into this galaxy.

[Trygon]

Well actually demons are leaking in all the time, more by the day, and when you kill a demon it comes back again five to ten centuries later.

[shadowdragonswarm]

hopefully by then this galaxy will have been consumed of all its biomass and we've moved on.

[chiefsfan]

Tyranids will eventually devourer the whole universe, and God's new beginning will begin right after the Tyranids become extinct.

[romorini]

The Necrons could actually be in serious trouble if the Tau are able to destroy a tomb and study what can't phase out. All they've really got going for them is insane technology, and they are now static. The Tau will only get better and could concievably devise a way to negate key Necron abilities.

I can't see the Necrons controlling more than a Galaxy at a time, and they're racing against the clock, eventually someone's going to have better tech, or figure out a way to kill a C'tan, and they'll be boned.

The Tyranids I could see roving through the universe, then coming back and devouvering all the life from the galaxies they visited billions of years ago, whether or not they could expand enough to have eaten all the food in the universe at once is mind boggling.

As things are now, I see the tyranids destroying all life in the galaxy and moving on, leaving the Necrons alone and forcing the C'tan into slumber again. So, who wins?

[Genesis]

Surely Necron as in theory there are infintie amounts of them and there pretty imba as it is, they get my vote but nids are a close second.

[Trygon]

Necrons are not infinite. There is just loads of them.

[amazingacorn]

terribletrygon said:

Necrons are not infinite. There is just loads of them.

I voted Necrons. How do you destroy them? When you kill them, they just get recalled to the Tomb Worlds.
There are already loads of them AND more keep waking up.

I can't wait to see the Imperium try to destroy a Tomb World. Does the tomb world get a WBB roll from an Exterminatus?

[carnogaunt]

What I think will happen:

The Imperium dies. I just can't see any way around it. The human race will probably continue for thousands of years, and may eventually spring back when the galaxy cools down a bit, but in the meantime they will lose a great deal of technology and sink back into something like the medieval period. Space travel and communication would be cut off. Lasguns and Autoguns would become uncommon and things like Land Raiders would be virtually non-existent.

The Eldar outlast the Imperium due to their superior technology and widespread use of "spirit stones." However they are still a dying race and they will eventually succumb to the violence of the galaxy. The Necrons will probably be the most active in their demise considering the races have an old grudge against each other.

The Dark Eldar live on for some time. Since they have a hidden city to fall back to, they will survive for as long as there are humans to pick on. But if another race discovers their hiding spot...

Chaos will always exist, but Daemons and such can only survive outside the Warp if they are bound to an object (like a weapon or war machine) or summoned near the Eye of Terror, Maelstrom, or similar Warp storm. This means that the only Chaos forces capable of attacking the rest of the galaxy with good results are the Chaos Space Marine Legions. Since they lack the facilities to recruit and train new members, there are a limited number of them. When they are all destroyed, the tainted areas can be quarantined.

The Necrons will survive for a long time, but as soon as the Tau have advanced far enough to rival them, it's game over. The Necrons are very difficult to destroy, but their tomb worlds are not. They suffer from the same disadvantage as the Chaos Space Marines (a finite number of troops - albeit resilient ones). I believe the key to destroying them is in their own Gauss technology.

The Orks will suffer a similar fate to the Imperium. They will definitely survive, but probably in a feral or near-feral form (with no Imperial technology left to steal and a limited understanding of Tau weaponry).

The Tau will expand to replace the Imperium, except since they lack full Warp travel, they will probably only cover about 1/3 of the galaxy. Since they are immune to the taint of Chaos, the Tau will not be faced with the same problems that the Imperium was. With the help of their allies they can defend themselves from all of the other races with ease.

Tyranids are the only race that I could see lasting forever. They just wouldn't stay in the same galaxy forever (no reason to). They've already absorbed DNA from every major race in the game so once they've gathered enough biomass and energy they can just move on to the next unfortunate civilization. Maybe they will return in a few million years to see what new food items are available...

So really there is no foreseeable victor (except maybe Tau for the short-term). The story will continue until the end of the universe - and nobody wins when that happens.

[Koyori]

Crons arent always able to phase out of battle. Some times they recive so much dmg that the phase out dun work. Also how long will it take before nids start invading the warp?

[n00b1n8R]

umm... they allready have koyori. how else do you explain how warp travel works? and where does the hive mind live? (the "shadow in the warp).

and if you mean eating daemons and such, how can you eat that which has no shape? as i understand it, there is nothing physical in the warp and that's about all nids are interested in eating.

i agree with everything carnogaunt just said except for a few points.
no matter how fast the tau are advancing i doubt they'd have the tech to rival the necrons before they are wiped out by the nids.

the orks are more than capable of making there own stuff, they just don't like making the bits that are required to make the stuff (bullets, sheet metal etc) though grots can be "persuaded" to easy enough.

i think that cron's will last forever in a perpetual battle with the nids. if they've lasted this long, whats to stop them lasting longer?