So will GW nerf us Nids with the FAQ?

[Davor]

Or I should be saying do you have faith in GW with the FAQ that will come out on Saturday?

I for one, and a bit scared to read what our FAQ, or I should be saying ERRATA. As a DA player before, GW just couldn't do justice to the DA codex (talking about 4 years ago not Jan FAQ).

So who thinks we will get nerfed with the new Errata on Saturday (if it comes out that is)?

I for one will be shocked if we get buffed with the Errata and not shocked at all if we get Nerfed.

[gigasnail]

my dad used to have a saying: "the sun even shines on a dog's ass some days." we could get lucky.

[webebuggin]

Your father was a gentleman and a scholar. We could indeed luck out

[Bot]

The only thing that I really hope that they will let us keep, is Old adversary... that unless they change it, will give prefered enemy to shooting as well. Even though they changed prefered enemy to only be re-roll 1s... but hey, with the new rules, its for both shooting and to hit and to wound.

Also, I don't know if they might change our rage instinct behaviour. I've been skipping through the rulebook today and unless they change it in our FAQ, then our feeding creatures will not need Synapse. (At least not our big once). Rage does not force you to move against the closest enemy any longer and instead gives you +2 attacks on the charge, instead of 1.

This means that our Trygons will have 8 attacks on the charge... As long as they are out of Synapse.

Which is kind of silly, really.

[gigasnail]

it's kind of baller, really. ftfy <3

[warischoy]

I do really hope that rage has a VERY large drawback though. We don't want death company getting any better.

Also if rage is bad we can deal by putting it in synapse but others such as death company and daemon weapon results cannot.

[Inquisitor Stingray]

Who's to say that the FAQ/errata will be out on saturday already?

[Bot]

Jun 27, 2012 0:57:28 GMT warischoy said:

I do really hope that rage has a VERY large drawback though. We don't want death company getting any better.

Also if rage is bad we can deal by putting it in synapse but others such as death company and daemon weapon results cannot.

I'm sorry, but there are no longer any drawbacks from Rage. You get +2 attacks instead of 1 on the charge and you are free to decide where your unit is moving.

[Xantige]

This is the first edition change I've been around for, but I wonder if there was this much doom and gloom with the coming of 5th, 4th, 3rd and 2nd... From what I've heard, nids have had it super hard in 5th, many people place us below some of the 4th ed codices in power... so... how much worse can it get? All non-nid armies win against nids on a roll of 1+?

I haven't kept up with the rumours, but in my opinion, it could go either way for us. But I don't think we'll drop to being 100% unplayable, nor will we leap to being a guaranteed winning army. I think we'll either see a horizontal slide in our army, or we'll see a slight rise or fall. The only thing that would utterly destroy us or make us the next op army is how GW treats the other armies. If we get a slight boost, but GK troops suddenly because 5 points a model... then... yeah we may be toast, but it wouldn't be because of our errata/FAQ, it'd be because of the GK errata/FAQ, and the errata/FAQ of other armies.

Either way it's little skin off my back. My army sucks because I suck at the game and don't have 10,000 points of bugs to choose from. No matter the change, I'll suck. If it's impossible for my bugs to win, I'll find better players that won't be jerks by fielding a list I have no hope against. If I can't find good players, I'll move on to another game.

[gigasnail]

@xan: it's hard to say where we'll be when the dust is settled. things are certainly shifting. hang in there.

[Bot]

Jun 27, 2012 1:45:53 GMT Xantige said:

All non-nid armies win against nids on a roll of 1+?

Whaat? No! Just no! xD

[tarrasque]

I've gotta say I'm disappointed by a lot of the attitudes I'm seeing. I'm thrilled with all these exciting new changes happening with the new edition. There's a lot I'm looking forward to that really benefits us. I think I'm going to enjoy the game even more.

[demoric]

Dooooooom! Misery!
Honestly in my local meta my Tyranids army has been called OP, Unfair, and Impossible to defeat. Honestly though I work really hard to pull the wins, and have only had a few draws. I routinely play against grey knights with there psybolt rifleman dreads, dreadknights, and vindicare assassins, and manage a narrow win. (also note I play against SM, orks, necrons, orks, and more orks)

5th has been fun, but I look forward to 6th. Lots of changes will mix up my strategies, but it does look like it may get even tougher to pull a win in 6th. It will just mean the victories will be that much sweeter.

[swarm492]

Jun 27, 2012 1:45:53 GMT Xantige said:

This is the first edition change I've been around for, but I wonder if there was this much doom and gloom with the coming of 5th, 4th, 3rd and 2nd... From what I've heard, nids have had it super hard in 5th, many people place us below some of the 4th ed codices in power... so... how much worse can it get? All non-nid armies win against nids on a roll of 1+?

I haven't kept up with the rumours, but in my opinion, it could go either way for us. But I don't think we'll drop to being 100% unplayable, nor will we leap to being a guaranteed winning army. I think we'll either see a horizontal slide in our army, or we'll see a slight rise or fall. The only thing that would utterly destroy us or make us the next op army is how GW treats the other armies. If we get a slight boost, but GK troops suddenly because 5 points a model... then... yeah we may be toast, but it wouldn't be because of our errata/FAQ, it'd be because of the GK errata/FAQ, and the errata/FAQ of other armies.

Either way it's little skin off my back. My army sucks because I suck at the game and don't have 10,000 points of bugs to choose from. No matter the change, I'll suck. If it's impossible for my bugs to win, I'll find better players that won't be jerks by fielding a list I have no hope against. If I can't find good players, I'll move on to another game.

I think a new edition is just what we need, I'm sure with all the changes and the forecasted reduction of tanks to deal will will help us out. Xan take this (jar of hope), it will see you through, things will get better just hang in there.

Side note, maybe I just missed the train but when was it declared we were getting a faq on saturday?

[WestRider]

Jun 27, 2012 3:55:25 GMT swarm492 said:

Side note, maybe I just missed the train but when was it declared we were getting a faq on saturday?

I don't remember where it came from, but it's been commonly accepted for a while now that all Armies were getting updates in their FAQs when 6th Ed comes out. They all have a blank section in the FAQs right now titled Amendments, that GW says are going to be used to patch up cross-edition problems.