Who Will Rule The Universe?
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Post by Constantin Valdor on Dec 20, 2006 12:09:46 GMT
I was under the impression the imperium was still trying to figure that out: translation GW haven't bothered to think about it yet  |
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Post by ryshi on Dec 20, 2006 13:58:49 GMT
Honestly the way I see it is the Imperium will HOLD OUT agains't the tyranids(barely), the other races will have been killed off slowly, and the tyranids will have moved on to a different part of the universe seeking more plentiful food. After which I assume through mankind's flaws the imperium will collapse and end up destroying itself in the turning of peace(hell there are no other races to fight now, it's been so long I doubt they know how to handle peace). And maybe the nids will come back to finish what they started in the distant future with some better evolutions.
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Post by romorini on Dec 20, 2006 17:07:03 GMT
Tyranids will never get a 100% energy return, it's just not physically possible, so they can't float along indefinately. However, their movement from their previous galaxy to the 40K galaxy suggests that they can go a very long distance before starving to death. Tyranids will never reall run out of food, as I doubt they can traverse the universe, consume all the biomass in each galaxy, and be back to their point of origin before life can spring up again.
Heck, if tyranids were a smaller force and moved slower, they could simply do laps around this galaxy almost indefinately, assuming a lot of planets have life. Does anyone know how old the Solar System is? That would give a decent time frame for life to emerge from a nebula.
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Post by shadowdragonswarm on Dec 20, 2006 19:29:42 GMT
Does it really say the Tyranids can use the warp?
I always assumed they just cruised through space and took along time to get from place to place, and that the hive ships were like little "mini cities" and could perform everyday day functions while the majority hibernated or something.
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Post by Constantin Valdor on Dec 20, 2006 21:16:51 GMT
Yeah but realistically, it would just take too long to get through space. It takes light 65 million years to reach us from the andromeda galaxy. That's the nearest one, and i doubt anything can go that long without food.
Hey here's a point. does the warp just exist in this galaxy, or in the whole universe?
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Post by amazingacorn on Dec 20, 2006 21:25:52 GMT
Yeah but realistically, it would just take too long to get through space. It takes light 65 million years to reach us from the andromeda galaxy. That's the nearest one, and i doubt anything can go that long without food. Hey here's a point. does the warp just exist in this galaxy, or in the whole universe? I'm pretty sure that it states in fluff that the Tyranids can go into a hibernating state, while cruising to another galaxy so that they do not starve to death along the way. Besides, you'd think that after they swallow a whole planet, they'd have enough to get by for a while... But after everything said and done, the universe will collapse in upon itself, and then RE-Big-Bang, starting the universe and eventual life all over again. Everybody loses, lol. |
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Post by Constantin Valdor on Dec 20, 2006 22:05:37 GMT
yeah probs, but its too far just to drift.
OO actually, if you travel at the speed of light, then time actuall stops for you!
so if tyranids travelled very close to the speed of light, then they could feasibly live for over 70 million years
I am so Smart!
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Post by shadowdragonswarm on Dec 20, 2006 22:06:59 GMT
They could also use their own energy, i.e., consuming the "lesser" 'nids to get more energy, would explain why the hive fleets are all small and this is only a fraction of the force, maybe they're inbetween galaxies consuming each other?
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Post by carnogaunt on Dec 21, 2006 2:34:04 GMT
Does anyone know how old the Solar System is? It's about 4 billion years old I think. They could also use their own energy, i.e., consuming the "lesser" 'nids to get more energy, would explain why the hive fleets are all small and this is only a fraction of the force, maybe they're inbetween galaxies consuming each other? The lesser organisms would be eaten as soon as they set out on their voyage so that they don't use up their food supply. The Norn Queen and a small security force to protect the hive ship would be the only ones kept alive, and they would have to be in deep hybernation (maybe even frozen). Then they just have to start drifting and set their biological clocks to awaken when they arrive. Warp travel would not work because even then it would take at least 500-1000 years. With the energy they need to sustain their void shields their food supply would not last long enough. Maybe they could jump into the warp for the first half of the journey and drift the rest of the way. If the Tyranids had some form of cold fusion to power their ships it might be different... |
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Post by n00b1n8R on Dec 21, 2006 4:12:20 GMT
hmm... why do nids need void shields? as i understand it, it's to protect them from deamons, but how could deamons (in the warp, without physical body's) attack that wich has no souls?
i'm pretty sure theres a passage in the fluff part of the codex that talks about how kryptman and some deathwatch kill team boarded a hive ship while it's inhabitants where still dormant from having just exited the warp.
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Post by mumbo12 on Dec 21, 2006 5:59:57 GMT
Points go to n00b for that one.(I can call you n00b right?) It's the last paragraph on page 14 of the nid codex. carnogaunt: How do you know how long it would take to travel any given distance through the Warp? The fluff constantly talks about how the Warp is un-knowable and not bound by any laws of physics. |
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Post by n00b1n8R on Dec 21, 2006 11:14:16 GMT
sure you can call me n00b (it's what everyone abbreviates my name to in halo. get's abit confusing though  ). |
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Post by TheRipperfex on Dec 25, 2006 3:09:24 GMT
Hey, I get called n00b well playing halo to!!!!!
Also, I thought thats how it is: everything is consumed and the norm queens/dominatrixes go dormant, then start htching eggs when they arrive?
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Post by TheSwarm on Dec 25, 2006 4:39:36 GMT
Well if the ship is in hybernation while it travels, and the combat nids are still biological gruel, I do not see fleets losing much energy when they are roaming through space. Also the photosynthisis idea is very entertaining to think about, nice idea magnus.
TheSwarm
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Post by n00b1n8R on Dec 25, 2006 7:33:17 GMT
Hey, I get called n00b well playing halo to!!!!! lol, i usually kill people who say that (but i'm so awesome i'd get them even if they didn't tick me off  ) photosynthesis? WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?? i think we have pretty much worked out every problem that nids would have traveling through space  n00b out |
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