Mawlocs in 10th?

[gman25639]

What do you guys think?

I was initially disappointed to see they no longer had the ability to burrow and Deep Strike again but then I saw that it gets a whopping 16 S8 AP-2 attacks in melee. That's on top of dealing Mortal Wounds and potentially Battle Shock to nearby enemy units when it arrives. It seems they've sacrificed a bit of its thematic play (tunneling on and off the table as it pleases) in exchange for consistency while still fulfilling its role as an anti-infantry bomb. Y'all think Mawloc is worth it this edition?

[yowster12]

Jun 16, 2023 15:19:57 GMT gman25639 said:

What do you guys think?

I was initially disappointed to see they no longer had the ability to burrow and Deep Strike again but then I saw that it gets a whopping 16 S8 AP-2 attacks in melee. That's on top of dealing Mortal Wounds and potentially Battle Shock to nearby enemy units when it arrives. It seems they've sacrificed a bit of its thematic play (tunneling on and off the table as it pleases) in exchange for consistency while still fulfilling its role as an anti-infantry bomb. Y'all think Mawloc is worth it this edition?

I'm not an expert by any stretch of the word, but 145 for what it does feels good.

[purestrain]

It's one of the best benefactors of the rapid ingress Stratagem, as you can setup the zone of death (having deathleaper a haruspex and as many zoanthrope units with neurothropes in them as possible) and have him pop up when they walk into range of your auras.

I think he's going to be a go to for forces charges and counter punching over extenders

[infornography]

I think the Mawloc is looking really good this edition. Buy him for the 12" radius MW explosion, Keep him for the 16 S8 AP-2 attacks in melee! All for the low low price of 145 points! I don't think he is undercosted, but I do think he brings an awful lot to the table.

[goodbrood]

I like the model and it was one of the few NOS kits in my inherited army, so I built both as Mawlocs in my fervor for the bigger mouth. Strategically, not sound but fun for a new player and long-absent painter [30yrs] of tiny [or not-so-tiny, now] models.

A lot of people seem to like the 9th version of the power for the ability to drop the damage anywhere, but I prefer the more immediate gratification of the the 3" diameter between the 9" range of deepstrike and the 12" range of TftD.

Also, I had previously misread the deepstrike rule as the infiltrators rule, but here is a re-wording of a previous question I had. If you deploy the mawloc last, AND your opponent foolishly infiltrates in range [9 from models/deployment] BUT within TftD....could you then deploy, resolve TftD, then Alien cunning for further shenanigans?

[trashcan01]

You can play them subtle for the auras and MW output, but they're equally effective in clearing the blobs holding objectives or screening.
I run 2 in my list, along 2 haruspexes and they're great.

[N.I.B.]

Only tested one in a 10th ed game yet, but it was great. I managed to get 4 tough dreadnoughts within range, do a bunch of MWs, charge to contest an objective, block enemy movement and eventually outlast the dreads on the objective.

[mattblowers]

The Mawloc always has been and always will be worth it. It's my favorite model, and my avatar here. I have 6, but 3 are built to be run as trygons: non-'nid players never know the difference. At the end of 7th I ran 6 mawlocs in a list that helped me beat the barkstar. It was glorious.

But more seriously; the Mawloc has been trash the last 2 codexes. This one looks good. Like most things 'niddy they do better when you run a double or triple threat and since shooty is better than punchy in 10th so far I don't know how viable that is.

[N.I.B.]

Another thing with the new Mawloc rules is that Terror from the Deep stacks now, for what it's worth (hard to have more than one affect the same units).

[goodbrood]

Jul 13, 2023 15:42:00 GMT goodbrood said:

I like the model and it was one of the few NOS kits in my inherited army, so I built both as Mawlocs in my fervor for the bigger mouth. Strategically, not sound but fun for a new player and long-absent painter [30yrs] of tiny [or not-so-tiny, now] models.

A lot of people seem to like the 9th version of the power for the ability to drop the damage anywhere, but I prefer the more immediate gratification of the the 3" diameter between the 9" range of deepstrike and the 12" range of TftD.

Also, I had previously misread the deepstrike rule as the infiltrators rule, but here is a re-wording of a previous question I had. If you deploy the mawloc last, AND your opponent foolishly infiltrates in range [9 from models/deployment] BUT within TftD....could you then deploy, resolve TftD, then Alien cunning for further shenanigans?

technical question here; why is there a line through my post?

[mattblowers]

Jul 14, 2023 15:33:02 GMT goodbrood said:

Jul 13, 2023 15:42:00 GMT goodbrood said:

I like the model and it was one of the few NOS kits in my inherited army, so I built both as Mawlocs in my fervor for the bigger mouth. Strategically, not sound but fun for a new player and long-absent painter [30yrs] of tiny [or not-so-tiny, now] models.

A lot of people seem to like the 9th version of the power for the ability to drop the damage anywhere, but I prefer the more immediate gratification of the the 3" diameter between the 9" range of deepstrike and the 12" range of TftD.

Also, I had previously misread the deepstrike rule as the infiltrators rule, but here is a re-wording of a previous question I had. If you deploy the mawloc last, AND your opponent foolishly infiltrates in range [9 from models/deployment] BUT within TftD....could you then deploy, resolve TftD, then Alien cunning for further shenanigans?

technical question here; why is there a line through my post?

I found it. You typed mawloc(s) except you replaced the () with [] and it created a strikethrough command that you left open so it did a strikethrough for the rest of your post.

[piersonsmuppet]

Jul 13, 2023 15:42:00 GMT goodbrood said:

I like the model and it was one of the few NOS kits in my inherited army, so I built both as Mawlocs in my fervor for the bigger mouth. Strategically, not sound but fun for a new player and long-absent painter [30yrs] of tiny [or not-so-tiny, now] models.

A lot of people seem to like the 9th version of the power for the ability to drop the damage anywhere, but I prefer the more immediate gratification of the the 3" diameter between the 9" range of deepstrike and the 12" range of TftD.

Also, I had previously misread the deepstrike rule as the infiltrators rule, but here is a re-wording of a previous question I had. If you deploy the mawloc(s) last, AND your opponent foolishly infiltrates in range [9 from models/deployment] BUT within TftD....could you then deploy, resolve TftD, then Alien cunning for further shenanigans?

Tftd cannot resolve in the Deploy Armies step. TftD only triggers when the Mawloc enters using Deep Strike rules, which can only be used during your reinforcements step (or the opponent's reinforcement step with Rapid Ingress).

[dkng]

Jul 14, 2023 16:57:16 GMT piersonsmuppet said:

Jul 13, 2023 15:42:00 GMT goodbrood said:

I like the model and it was one of the few NOS kits in my inherited army, so I built both as Mawlocs in my fervor for the bigger mouth. Strategically, not sound but fun for a new player and long-absent painter [30yrs] of tiny [or not-so-tiny, now] models.

A lot of people seem to like the 9th version of the power for the ability to drop the damage anywhere, but I prefer the more immediate gratification of the the 3" diameter between the 9" range of deepstrike and the 12" range of TftD.

Also, I had previously misread the deepstrike rule as the infiltrators rule, but here is a re-wording of a previous question I had. If you deploy the mawloc(s) last, AND your opponent foolishly infiltrates in range [9 from models/deployment] BUT within TftD....could you then deploy, resolve TftD, then Alien cunning for further shenanigans?

Tftd cannot resolve in the Deploy Armies step. TftD only triggers when the Mawloc enters using Deep Strike rules, which can only be used during your reinforcements step (or the opponent's reinforcement step with Rapid Ingress).

Not opponent’s Reinforcement step, it’s end of move phase so it’s after opponent’s sets up his Reinforcement units (if any).

[goodbrood]

I appreciate the clarification, and the word on my posting.  I have not been on a forum before and there are a lot of things I am unaware of.  If I format something wrong, over-post, or get too contentious please let me know so I can avoid seriously bothering anyone.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Jul 14, 2023 17:36:07 GMT goodbrood said:

I appreciate the clarification, and the word on my posting.  I have not been on a forum before and there are a lot of things I am unaware of.  If I format something wrong, over-post, or get too contentious please let me know so I can avoid seriously bothering anyone.

Generally, people are pretty relaxed on this forum. were here to talk about Tyranids and playing them in 40k so posting is encouraged. Formatting takes getting used to as it's pseudo html, so everyone gets it wrong now and again. The mods are also good about slapping people with warnings before banning them. Most bans are for bots spamming the main forum with ads that I'm aware.