Swarmlord Leak

[Osedaxx]

Looks like we lost the double move

11PL
2+ 2+ S8 T8 12W 9A 10LD 2+ 4++


- Blade Parry reduces 1st failed melee save damage to 0

- *new* Domination of the Hive Mind - Select a CORE for re-roll hit. Same ability as Morven Vhal.

- Hive Commander now just selecting a CORE unit within Synapse Link range and it gains Ob Sec.

Bone Sabres - S +1, AP -4, 3D

[gigasnail]

yeah they're paring down the move twice/shoot twice abilities.

[calbanite]

Death Throes is 6+ deal d3 mortals to closest enemy unit within 6'. No longer damages friendlies.

Does not have the Supreme Commander Keyword.

Does have Horned Chitin and The Swarmlord keywords.

[kazetanade]

Gaining obsec is big tho.

[trashcan01]

Mar 14, 2022 4:08:50 GMT calbanite said:

Does have Horned Chitin and The Swarmlord keywords.

Any idea about the Horned Chitin? Probably a trigger for stratagem, eh?

[jesses]

Strat after charging: 2-4 D3 MW, 5-6 3 MW

[kazetanade]

Confirm? STACKABLE WITH CRUSHER STAMPEDE???

[Shadowwolf]

Blade parry negates damage on first failed save, isn't that a practically useless mechanic, though? Won't an enemy (given he has options) just roll his weaker weapons first in hope it negates minimum damage? Still, it's 1D less per fight phase, so it's something, but will it be relevant outside of single combat duels against characters, monsters or other large Single Dudes In Your Area?

Shadowwolf

[kazetanade]

Mar 14, 2022 12:01:55 GMT Shadowwolf said:

Blade parry negates damage on first failed save, isn't that a practically useless mechanic, though? Won't an enemy (given he has options) just roll his weaker weapons first in hope it negates minimum damage? Still, it's 1D less per fight phase, so it's something, but will it be relevant outside of single combat duels against characters, monsters or other large Single Dudes In Your Area?

Shadowwolf

Not many people have multiple weapon profiles in melee, so it's unlikely you'll see a bunch of D1 and then suddenly D3+d3 in combat. So no, not practically useless.

[exlo89]

Mar 14, 2022 10:23:32 GMT jesses said:

Strat after charging: 2-4 D3 MW, 5-6 3 MW

Where did you read this information?

[tylertt]

Was shared by the same guy who provided all of the Eldar leaks in December

[yoritomo]

Mar 14, 2022 12:11:31 GMT kazetanade said:

Mar 14, 2022 12:01:55 GMT Shadowwolf said:

Blade parry negates damage on first failed save, isn't that a practically useless mechanic, though? Won't an enemy (given he has options) just roll his weaker weapons first in hope it negates minimum damage? Still, it's 1D less per fight phase, so it's something, but will it be relevant outside of single combat duels against characters, monsters or other large Single Dudes In Your Area?

Shadowwolf

Not many people have multiple weapon profiles in melee, so it's unlikely you'll see a bunch of D1 and then suddenly D3+d3 in combat. So no, not practically useless.

While that is true, there are other ways for this to occur. A multi unit assault comes to mind. If the swarmlord gets charged by a unit of terminators and a unit of tactical marines then I could see people throwing the tact marines attacks out first to try and eat up that blade parry.

[Shadowwolf]

Mar 14, 2022 12:37:39 GMT yoritomo said:

Mar 14, 2022 12:11:31 GMT kazetanade said:

Not many people have multiple weapon profiles in melee, so it's unlikely you'll see a bunch of D1 and then suddenly D3+d3 in combat. So no, not practically useless.

While that is true, there are other ways for this to occur. A multi unit assault comes to mind. If the swarmlord gets charged by a unit of terminators and a unit of tactical marines then I could see people throwing the tact marines attacks out first to try and eat up that blade parry.

I was thinking of the classic seregant with a power fist/Nob with power claw/terminator with thunderhammer, but maybe noone fields those anymore? I'm a little out of the loop when it comes to the availability, composition and flavour of biomass these days...

Shadowwolf

[beetlejuice]

Mar 14, 2022 12:37:39 GMT yoritomo said:

Mar 14, 2022 12:11:31 GMT kazetanade said:

Not many people have multiple weapon profiles in melee, so it's unlikely you'll see a bunch of D1 and then suddenly D3+d3 in combat. So no, not practically useless.

While that is true, there are other ways for this to occur. A multi unit assault comes to mind. If the swarmlord gets charged by a unit of terminators and a unit of tactical marines then I could see people throwing the tact marines attacks out first to try and eat up that blade parry.

if they do, I’d be happy to interrupt and have swarmlord slice up some terminators with his 9A and severely diminish the total dmg he takes. Quality bait

[hivefleetkerrigan]

There are plenty of models that get additional attacks that do one damage. There are also squads that bring different weapon types (so multidamage and single damage). Swing with those first hoping to damage swarmy then break out the big guns.