Back after 4 years away, looking for advice on starting up

[tylertt]

Hey Hive!

Been a LOONG time since I last posted or even checked the Hive. But I'm trying to get back into 40k and dust off the ol Hive Fleet.

I'm looking for just a quick run down on whats good with Tyranids these days.

Here is what I currently have for my army.

x3 Hive Tyrants
Swarmlord
x2 Broodlord
Tyranid Prime
Neurothrope
Tyrant Guard
Deathleaper
Tervigon

x3 Hive Guard
x5 Zoanthrope
x9 Lictors

x24 Genestealers
x20 Devilgaunts
x30 Termagants
x20 Hormagants
x8 Rippers
x6 Warriors
x4 Mucolids

Hive Crone
x20 Gargoyles
x9 Spore Mines

x3 Carnifex
Exocrine
Tyrannofex
x3 Biovores



Thanks Hive!

[mule]

We just got a small rules update. No one really knows whats that great.

Hiveguard have been tried and true the whole edition. Exocrine making a comeback if you bring them in a tcyte. Neurothrope are our goto psykers.

Warriors are iffy on whether they're worth taking need to have more playtesting but they seem like the best tool for staying on the board. Besides that some other higher tier units are struggling in the current meta, genestealers, swarmlord, hormagants, flyrants, broodlords and rippers are all good but have some pretty striking flaws or hard counters that marines are using to invalidate them.

[tylertt]

Appreciate the advice!

I'll mainly be facing Tau, IG, and Space Wolves as my primary sparring armies. I've heard Tau are nasty to Nids, and we have a hard time with high T with IG tanks.

Maybe more Hive Guard something to consider?

[mule]

Jan 8, 2020 1:27:41 GMT tylertt said:

Appreciate the advice!

I'll mainly be facing Tau, IG, and Space Wolves as my primary sparring armies. I've heard Tau are nasty to Nids, and we have a hard time with high T with IG tanks.

Maybe more Hive Guard something to consider?

You just need 6 total. We have a double shoot stratagem, they don't need LOS and ignore coversaves. Very strong for their points. That'd probably be the very first thing I would get if I were you. 

From there just see how you want to play it. Tau is either one of the easiest armies or most difficult armies for us. If they do the competitive builds with a lot of shield drones (like 50 ish) then yes you're going to have a bad time. Otherwise a typical genestealer sling with swarmlord can do a lot of work against tau units assuming they don't get shot off the board with a whole army overwatch. 

Depending on what gametype you're playing. IG tanks are strong in some game modes and not so much in others. If you're playing ITC you just play objectives and don't give them anything that great to shoot at. 

[No One]

Or run stealer sling at them and just shut down the army if they're not running any counter punch.

[sniddy]

Double down on Exocrines maybe - Consider old one eye too

[hivefleetkerrigan]

I'd recommend venomthropes or a malanthrope for -1 to hit. That will neuter Tau/necron shooting. It'll have a marginal impact on space marines. All of the above is solid advice.

What types of missions will you be playing? We can help tailor some advice that way.

[mattblowers]

Welcome back! Swarmlord is great. As are broodlords. I think you NEED 3 more hive guard. They are the backbone of nearly every successful tyranid list. Get some games in and get your feet back under you before spending coin to try to improve your list. The world is a far different place from the one you left.

[bigpig]

Things that are solid
Swarmlord
6 Hiveguard
Malanthrope or maybe Venomthropes
Rippers

Things that are still good and will make it into most lists
Magnetized Flyrants
Genestealers
Termagaunts

Things that the jury is still out on and you will get conflicting accounts on (use caution and base on Meta)
Mawlocs
Exocrine/Tyrannocyte
Warriors

[mattblowers]

Jan 8, 2020 15:29:15 GMT bigpig said:

Things that are solid
Things that are still good and will make it into most lists
Magnetized Flyrants
Genestealers
Termagaunts

I would add hormogants and Old One Eye to this middle list.

[bigpig]

Jan 8, 2020 15:30:33 GMT mattblowers said:

Jan 8, 2020 15:29:15 GMT bigpig said:

Things that are solid
Things that are still good and will make it into most lists
Magnetized Flyrants
Genestealers
Termagaunts

I would add hormogants and Old One Eye to this middle list.

Yup... Second that

[tylertt]

Appreciate the advice guys! mattblowers it certainly is a very different looking beast from when I left, excited to ease back into it though.

I also forgot I do have 3 Venomthropes so I have that covered at least.

I'll take everything you guys have said here and start messing with some lists