Blood of Baal ideas

[hammerhand]

what do you think about using a CC swarm like this
custom hive fleet: bio metallic cysts + pack hunters or senses of the outer dark
3x9 warriors with scything talons, adrenal glands
2x9 raveners with scything talons
total of 837 points.

not really over the top, but maybe a solid core for a fun list. Expand with 90+ Hormagaunts and some Tyrants (flying or walking) to stay true to the scything talons theme. But all in all too little staying power and too slow.
Maybe anchor a malanthrope or a maleceptor in the middle of the bulk. But probably too expensive for saving models with a bad save. I will try it the next time


I tried to find a good use for the tyrannocyte - it is a shame that it can only carry 1 unit. I would love to drop 3 Neurothropes or a prime with a lot of warriors.

[hiveoverall]

I think behemoth raveners may have something going for them now they are dirt cheap, if you play on terrain heavy ETClike tables where you can sneak up and charge from behind cover to avoid overwatch

[wormlord666]

Custom fleet: synaptic augmentation and metamorphic regrowth. Put many small teams of warriors with venomcannon, a prime and mayby even a t-fex with rupture cannon or biovores.
They will have heavy shots with many synapse units to re-roll one each. Then many multiple wound units that can regenerate wounds.

Give the t-fex a 5++ as well and the old monster might stick around a few turns.

Many small units are bad in ITC but not that bad in other formats.

[topaxygourouni]

Custom hive fleet: 6+++ on monsters that did not move, reroll 1 hit when in synapse.

Spearhead:

Hive Tyrant, Heavy Venom cannon, 2x deathspitters with slimer maggots, Relic: The parasite (max shots)

3 x Rupture cannon T-fex.

Combine leviathan and a better Kronos abilities on your triple T-fex. H. Tyrant assists by shooting 3 shots on his HVC, rerolling a hit each time.

[nintura]

If you're going to go for max shots on the relic, wouldn't the heavy barbed be better?

[No One]

Reroll hit and wound>max shots on HVC. You're getting an extra shot on average, vs 2 rerolls and +8" range. Edit: Didn't spot reroll 1 hit trait. But still probably better.

[nintura]

Ah I never take hive fleet into consideration. the web of things and the way they interact is too much for me.

[topaxygourouni]

Dec 3, 2019 14:21:35 GMT No One said:

Reroll hit and wound>max shots on HVC. You're getting an extra shot on average, vs 2 rerolls and +8" range.

I don't know, I just hate all the times you roll a single shot and it feels so pathetic. With your relic we would get 2 rerolls to hit and one to wound, but do we really need 2 rerolls on potential 2 shots on a monster with BS 3+?

44" range is dope tho.

Maybe max shots would fit the stranglethorn cannon better, so 6 flat shots with 2 damage each, at which case switching back to Kronos will be more beneficial (if shooting against a horde, we already got 2+ to hit...

I just want to make footrant work honestly. I have this amazing model that looks like an Alien Queen from Aliens ending scene, it's literally the first Tyranid model I got, and it was already painted and based. Don't know where it is from or who painted it, but it's what dictated the color and style of all my army afterwards.

So rephrasing: What loadout would make the best Footrant?

[acehilator]

HVC + dual DS, unless your local meta is REALLY heavy on hordes. You want him chilling in the backfield plinking away, looking all harmless.

[hiveoverall]

Dec 3, 2019 14:15:53 GMT topaxygourouni said:

Custom hive fleet: 6+++ on monsters that did not move, reroll 1 hit when in synapse.

Spearhead:

Hive Tyrant, Heavy Venom cannon, 2x deathspitters with slimer maggots, Relic: The parasite (max shots)

3 x Rupture cannon T-fex.

Combine leviathan and a better Kronos abilities on your triple T-fex. H. Tyrant assists by shooting 3 shots on his HVC, rerolling a hit each time.

If you play on light terrain tables this could do some stuff ! I like it ! But it would use the extra range relic, as you want this pack to be staying way back from the action. Also just two tyranofex is enough lol, one biovore for spearhead completion and go !

[acehilator]

If you want to run a shooty backfield you need at least one Kronos detachment for Exo + new Kronos spell. Because you probably do not want to run two shooty backfield detachments, that means the custom hive fleet needs to go

Neuro
2x Rupture Tfex with 5++ adaptation
1x Exo (start in cover, move out with strat)

[topaxygourouni]

Dec 3, 2019 15:25:13 GMT acehilator said:

If you want to run a shooty backfield you need at least one Kronos detachment for Exo + new Kronos spell. Because you probably do not want to run two shooty backfield detachments, that means the custom hive fleet needs to go

Neuro
2x Rupture Tfex with 5++ adaptation
1x Exo (start in cover, move out with strat)

Why wouldn't I want to run 2 hive fleets for backfield shooting? Apart from the HQ tax, I don't see why I shouldn't.

[acehilator]

We are limited to 2x 5++ adaptation and one use of the Exo stratagem. If you start putting Tfexes with and without 5++ on the board, and/or regular Exos without 5++ and not in cover, you are just writing the target priority list for your opponent. And without a strong melee presence on the board (because you just invested heavily in shooty stuff), he can just pick off your units as efficiently as possible. And we are not going to win that trade. Biovores and Hive Guard also want to be Kronos. Rupture TFex is our only long-range AT that would be better off with the custom hive fleet.

[nintura]

I need to figure out what I want to do. I have generally 1,000 point games. But I like to flood the board and run tricks to surprise my opponents. We don't play super competitive and none of us are master gamers at this. I want to keep to a Hydra theme but I'm open to custom Hive Fleet traits. I like the idea of Lictors as I have 3 see-through lictors on the way.

Ideas? I feel like I should shoot for 2 battalions but the HQ tax takes a huge chunk of my available points.

[topaxygourouni]

Dec 3, 2019 15:40:32 GMT acehilator said:

We are limited to 2x 5++ adaptation and one use of the Exo stratagem. If you start putting Tfexes with and without 5++ on the board, and/or regular Exos without 5++ and not in cover, you are just writing the target priority list for your opponent. And without a strong melee presence on the board (because you just invested heavily in shooty stuff), he can just pick off your units as efficiently as possible. And we are not going to win that trade. Biovores and Hive Guard also want to be Kronos. Rupture TFex is our only long-range AT that would be better off with the custom hive fleet.

That's why I want to have my T-fexes with a 6+++ at least. Would take them from 14 wounds to 16 or 17 if I'm lucky. i would consider it ok.