Vs. Grey Knights v7.0

[yoritomo]

7th edition is here. Now that is has been out for a while it is time for us to combine our knowledge and share what we have learned.

This thread is for everything we know about the Grey Knights. If you know something about the strategies that Grey Knight players use, or units to watch out for, or how the meta is developing with the Grey Knights, or popular ally choices, or units you’ve had success with, or anything else that will help fellow nid players do well against Grey Knights then we’d love for you to share it here.

This is for serious discussion about Grey Knight armies only. As such, flaming will not be tolerated, if you’re going to debate then use facts and don’t break down into make calling or other such nonsense. Also, this isn’t the place for army list reviews; please take those to the appropriate board. And as always, the moderators reserve the right to delete any off topic replies or inappropriate responses.

[whoremagaunt]

i always like a challenge and so recently i have been playing a lot of ~1000pt games against GKs. every single time my opponent takes a drago+ 5 paladin death-star in a stormraven (like is that unwritten rule that all GK armies must have those 3 units?) and quite frankly im running out of ideas on how to handle it. my expensive monsters explode at the sight of force weapons and my hordes of gaunts/gants lack the power to make a difference. does anyone have a successful strategy for this? occasionally they put a dread on the stormraven too (putting essentially all their eggs in one flying basket) but i can never seem to knock it down in time. "help me tyranid hive, you're our only hope!"

[LordPathos]

My vote is either:
A) flood them with enough attacks that they will eventually fail that 2+ Terminator armor save
B) flood them with enough attacks they they will eventually fail that 5+ Invulnerable save
C) ignore them and hold objectives

[tylertt]

Bring yourself x2 Flyrants, and one or more Crones and that Storm Raven should fold right over.

Honestly just tie up Draigos unit with a tarpit and hope for the best, while the rest of your army goes for objectives.

[ptderfel]

Remember this, draigo's unit can only do so much. Your best weapons are exocrines and B. devourers. Dont face them in combat use your cheap troops as fodder around your MC's so he cant charge them.

[blucord]

^^ I agree, bubble wrap your MC's with cheap gaunts, and use gargoyles( blinding venom) to tarpit them to death plus if you get the charge you get the hammer of wrath special rule.. 4 FMCS will be plenty to deal with them, 2 flyrants with devs and 2 harpies/crones will do the trick...it's quite scary to deal with that many wings in the air. And terror in the deep works surprising well against their troop choices( if it dosnt scatter)

[WestRider]

Got a game in against the new GK yesterday.
- Triple DreadKnights were a serious pain to deal with, but my opponent made some movement mistakes, and I was able to mostly avoid them.
- Watch out for Players who do know how to use their Shunt moves well, tho. Both with Heavy Incinerator DreadKnights and Incinerator Interceptors, that can let them put some pretty nasty Templates right where you don't want them.
- Terminators are solid Troops, but nothing new. They're just cheaper now.
- Halberds + HammerHand lets GK get a big pile of S7 AP3 Attacks pretty easily, which can be a real problem for a lot of our Units.
- Purifiers were the other big pain here, just one Unit using Cleansing Flame finished off two Broods of Gargoyles and did some significant damage to a Fex and some Rippers. Particularly watch out because Novas can hit Swooping FMCs and Units that are Locked in Combat, and Cleansing Flame will just murder Harpies/Crones, plus it's a great Tarpit breaker.
- Also, make sure your Opponent is playing Brotherhood of Psykers right for Cleansing Flame. He doesn't get to measure the Aura from all models in the Unit, he has to pick one model that basically functions as the caster for that particular use of the power.

They're far from unbeatable, tho. I ended up winning 15-9, and it would have been far more lopsided if my Opponent hadn't rolled amazingly with his Saves on the first Turn. I forced almost 40 Saves, and he only failed 2 of them.

[mattblowers]

I tabled my opponent last night on turn 6. I also had all but one objective had it ended a turn earlier. The force weapons that have AP3 are a real problem as are the force shooting attacks. I knew I was going to be facing grey knights so I took skyblight so I could swamp him in gargs. In all honesty the exocrine didn't do that much. My allstar for the game was the LAN biovores and the harpies b/c of the massed number of wounds he took. Draigos deathstar took 57 wounds one turn. Of course I only removed 3 models, but with FNP and a 2+ I was having real trouble taking them down. My biggest worries with them was the number of dice he could roll, I just couldn't compete.

[misterdutch]

I played my first game yesterday, with my tyranids VS grey knights. He rolled the warlord trait that lets him infiltrate units, in addition to this he also had first turn. Because I set up all my stuff behind a big building out of LOS (hoping to avoid shooting during his first turn) he could infiltrate very close to me. Preparing to get killed on turn one, I rolled the die to steal initiative and rolled a 6 xD Now a dreadnight, big unit of terminators and a lvl 3 or 4 librarian in termiantor armour were just sitting there in the open. I promptly shot at the terminators with multiple warp lances from my zoantrhropes and flyrant, plasma blast from an exocrine and vector striked the terminators with my flyrant and hive crone. Amazingly, he only failed one save and proceeded to win the game. Could have gone very different though!

[paintingvermin]

Flyrant 2x tl dev 230p
Tervigon 195p
Swarmlord 285p
2x Tyrant Guard
3x venomthropes 135p
3x Warrior broods with Deathspitters, 1 Warrior with bara strangler 320p
Broodlords hundring pack = 30 genestealers and 1 broodlord 480p
2x Termagants broods with 15 each 120p
4x Hormagaunts broods with 10 each 200p
3x dakkafexx, 2 with 2x tl dev, 1 stranglethorn Canon, 445p
1 mawloc 140p
1 trygon 190p
1 toxicrene 160p


Total 3k points

[phayze]

My friend plays grey knights very aggressively with interceptors. never really uses paladins, just terminators protecting his librarians. I love those tight units, my mawloc makes them disappear like magic. He always forgets to put up his sanctuary the turn they come in.

[LordPathos]

Jul 16, 2015 19:32:23 GMT paintingvermin said:

Flyrant 2x tl dev 230p
Tervigon 195p
Swarmlord 285p
2x Tyrant Guard
3x venomthropes 135p
3x Warrior broods with Deathspitters, 1 Warrior with bara strangler 320p
Broodlords hundring pack = 30 genestealers and 1 broodlord 480p
2x Termagants broods with 15 each 120p
4x Hormagaunts broods with 10 each 200p
3x dakkafexx, 2 with 2x tl dev, 1 stranglethorn Canon, 445p
1 mawloc 140p
1 trygon 190p
1 toxicrene 160p


Total 3k points

I don't understand what this was meant to be. A list to fight GKs with? What?

[Herbiithrope]

Need advice for facing 2 Imp Knights and a Nemesis Dreadknight. It's a 2k point list, and I'm not sure what else he has to bear (LR probably).
I have one Flyrant, one Harpy/Crone, and a Barbed Heiro. I have a custom Void Shield Geny I was thinking of using. I like the Trapdoor spider theory, any hope of that holding out?