Shadow in the Warp going to +1 or +2?

[Hive Bahamut]

Now as eldar are my second army, and after reading their new codex I second my expectations on Shadow in the Warp. Runes is now a one time use, and it was the most devastating anti-psyker defence around. I expect we will see MAYBE the distance of 12" to stay, but I almost guarantee the extra d6 for psychic powers are a thing of the past. Now with Adamantium Will being around would that be about right?

[gigasnail]

who knows? could see it going either way honestly. we'll know soon enough.

[infornography]

I expect it will be getting MUCH weaker. In the mean time we will enjoy a brief period where we have the the best anti psyker ability in the game unless you count mind strike missiles which are just silly broken.

[Hive Bahamut]

Don't those missles basically just read "au fromage" like the rest of GK? Nothing out of the ordinary for that Wardex.

On A side note my first game with new eldar resulted in Eldrad turning into a Herald of Khorne his first turn (he rolled 1st,) while the dual thirsters just mopped up everything else. Pathetic game, was over by end of turn 2 really.

[joysan76]

personally i think that the shadow in the warp with this edition may work in two way against psy-power

1) the sinapse creature pass its deny the witch value to other units in range
2) enemy psyker in range fall in the perils of the warp with any double they roll

it would be also nice to see the SoW range change with the sinapse psi-level
like 0 level ---> 6" (like actual warriors and trigon primus)
1 level ---> 12"
2 level ---> 18"
3+ level ---> 24"

[guidebot]

I can see shadow staying as it is. It's not just a defence; it makes it harder for psykers to do anything.

In terms of power level, it was never up there with the eldar runes of way-too-good, so I don't think that it's crying for a nerf either.

The question for the designers is, now that the games has a new psychic defence mechanism (DtW), do they want to change SItW to interact with that - or not?

I think it could go either way.

[halos]

The problem with linking SitW to Dtw is that it doesn't really work themetically. Not that it couldn't happen of course, stranger things have.

I mean, RoW are literally devices which deny the witch, it makes sense that they'd be linked to that mechanic. SitW on the other hand is more of a pervasive, planet-wide distraction to psykers.

The best way to represent it on the tabletop would probably be something like a flat -1Ld to non-tyranid psychic tests on the field. That's not excessively powerful but will still have some effect on the game.
You could possibly add an additional -1Ld modifier for every Synapse creature in range of the psyker, so the threat of Shadow, and the Tyranids in gerneral, builds as the game comes to a close.