Rule confusion

[micheja]

Ok, I've absolutly loved warhammer fantasy and 40k for years now, especially the fluff. I live in Switzerland and, as a expat I have some trouble getting anything in English, however the other week I found out my friend also had some 40k, and It was in English, fortunatly he had the black reach set recently so I have been able to play. I really enjoyed the game however after reading the mini handbook I had some question. More to the point, confusion on the topic of army building and what is legal.

It said I have to take at least 1HQ and 2 troop choices. It then further mentions that I can take up to 3 fast attack and 3 heavy support as well as an optional further 1 HQ 4 troops and 3 elites. This lead to quite a few questions, firstly, does this mean I can have any combination of these units ( ex 1 HQ , 3 troops , 1 elite and 3 heavy attack) or does it work differently, because the diagram in the booklet is slightly misleading. Another question that occurred to me was weather you were able to exede this limit in say a 4000 point game or apocalypse scenarios, and if so what is the borderline there onwards. I believe that in fantasy they put a limit of at least 50% troop choice and 25% max everything else( please correct me if I'm wrong) . Thank you very much in advance

[coredump]

It is that straight forward.

You must have 1 HQ and 2 Troops.

Then you can fill any/all/none of:
1HQ
4 troops
3 elite
3 fast attack
3 heavy support

There are no conditions or restrictions, no percentages, etc. (Your codex may have some, but not the main rules)


The rulebook does allow for taking a second verson of that once you hit 2000 points. I recommend you hold off until closer to 2500pts. Once you are getting into that range and above, you may want to check out the Apocalypse rules.

The rules also allow for taking allies.

Since you are starting, I suggest sticking with smaller games (1000, maybe 1500) and no allies. Give yourself a chance to get the basic rules down first.

[infornography]

note: he said he has the blackreach book, that is 5th edition, no second FOC (Force Organization Chart) in that edition.

Now in apocalypse there is no FOC. If you wanted to you could take 30 HQs and 3 troops in an apocalypse game.

6th edition is the currently released version and comes in the Dark Vengeance set if you want to get up to date, but 5th edition is a fine place to start. If you end up starting any other threads with questions just make sure you mention you are playing in 5th edition first thing to avoid confusion.

Also, welcome to the Hive.

[micheja]

thanks alot quys, that really cleared that up for me.