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Post by t⊗theark on Jul 30, 2013 11:57:27 GMT
.but seriously... dice rolling rituals... I HATE THEM. ...
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Post by killme304 on Jul 31, 2013 4:30:51 GMT
I roll whatever color dice I have for my scatter die, but I have a set of fiesta dice that I roll for everything else. Then again, I use red dice for wounds and blue dice for hull points, with green dice for other in-game reminders..... so yeah. Bugs me when I don't roll all the same color for the same gun.
I also hate modeling, partly because I'm bad at it, partly because I spent a whole month putting together 2500 pts of crons together in time for a tournament exactly 1 month from the day I got my first models. If I didn't buy half my nids off of another player I probably would have gone insane. I have enough decency to remove mold lines and sprue nubs, but I also regularly over-file and remove detail from them without meaning too.
I hate having to explain why my rules are special (such as chariots getting d6 HoW attacks instead of the normal 1 ect.) from every other time they have seen it, for every opponent. Sometimes even multiple times in the same game.
People that are dumb enough to charge my crons with a riptide (or any MC), watch it die to my lord (with a 3++, warscythe and MSS) then claim crons are op. I've even had someone try and claim bugs are op when I explained that spawned gants still counted as scoring units. I guess this could just be people that make terrible decisions in game and cry op because of it.
People that don't speed roll. Full unit of broadsides with maxed missile drones? Roll each model one at a time. Unit have the exact same save? Roll every single one of the 30ish wounds. one. at. a. time. Then these same people comment on how long the game is taking.
As for reminding players about buffs ect, if its a casual/firendly/pickup game, I will remind my enemies regularly that they are forgetting things, and even offer tactical advice/warn them they are doing something stupid. I even let them take back moves within reason. Tournament with prize support? You better know all your rules by heart, because you will receive no mercy. People tell me I am two entirely different people come tournament time. I have pulled a "your flyer didn't declare skyfire at the start of the shooting phase, so it hits mine on 6s" in tournament play. I have pulled the "you shoulda used focus fire" when only the front 3 models were area terrain, and proceed to take the saves on them. In any other game, I'd remind them, then pretend they did it right, or even let them change their mind mid shooting phase. It is all about context.
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Post by Squire on Jul 31, 2013 11:57:26 GMT
Tournament with prize support? You better know all your rules by heart, because you will receive no mercy. People tell me I am two entirely different people come tournament time. I have pulled a "your flyer didn't declare skyfire at the start of the shooting phase, so it hits mine on 6s" in tournament play. I have pulled the "you shoulda used focus fire" when only the front 3 models were area terrain, and proceed to take the saves on them. In any other game, I'd remind them, then pretend they did it right, or even let them change their mind mid shooting phase. It is all about context. That seems extremely obnoxious to me. Even in a tournament that seems too far. Is the money for winning a 40k event really worth being that pedantic? In professional sports where big money and careers are on the line people still exhibit sportsmanship
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Post by killme304 on Jul 31, 2013 12:57:25 GMT
Tournament with prize support? You better know all your rules by heart, because you will receive no mercy. People tell me I am two entirely different people come tournament time. I have pulled a "your flyer didn't declare skyfire at the start of the shooting phase, so it hits mine on 6s" in tournament play. I have pulled the "you shoulda used focus fire" when only the front 3 models were area terrain, and proceed to take the saves on them. In any other game, I'd remind them, then pretend they did it right, or even let them change their mind mid shooting phase. It is all about context. That seems extremely obnoxious to me. Even in a tournament that seems too far. Is the money for winning a 40k event really worth being that pedantic? In professional sports where big money and careers are on the line people still exhibit sportsmanship Some of the people who enter the tournaments near me would do the same in a heart beat. Several of the people that come only ever come if there is prize support above a certain threshold (its not uncommon for them to get above $150 for first), and bring things like leafblower guard, or whatever the "broken" list is at the time. I also find that several of these individuals regularly cheat or "forget" certain rules. It is the only time they even bother to show up to our shop, usually playing at other shops. The regulars to our LGS that enter know their rules from playing so many friendly games with me, so I don't even have to try it with them. When tourneys are coming, I post my contact info on the shop board and will play as many games with as many people as I can to prepare both myself, and them. I help them craft lists based on what we think will show up. Ever since we started this, those certain WAAC players have been showing up less and less, because they aren't winning as often. The majority of my LCS consists of casual gamers, only a few play competitively. So no, I don't feel bad. Go to any magic tournament and try to tell them you forgot a rule, and you could very well get DQed from the tourney. I don't see why a 40k tourney (with more money in prize support spread only among the top 3 normally, I might add) shouldn't adhere to the rules just as much.
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Post by Squire on Jul 31, 2013 14:45:50 GMT
That seems extremely obnoxious to me. Even in a tournament that seems too far. Is the money for winning a 40k event really worth being that pedantic? In professional sports where big money and careers are on the line people still exhibit sportsmanship Some of the people who enter the tournaments near me would do the same in a heart beat. Several of the people that come only ever come if there is prize support above a certain threshold (its not uncommon for them to get above $150 for first), and bring things like leafblower guard, or whatever the "broken" list is at the time. I also find that several of these individuals regularly cheat or "forget" certain rules. It is the only time they even bother to show up to our shop, usually playing at other shops. The regulars to our LGS that enter know their rules from playing so many friendly games with me, so I don't even have to try it with them. When tourneys are coming, I post my contact info on the shop board and will play as many games with as many people as I can to prepare both myself, and them. I help them craft lists based on what we think will show up. Ever since we started this, those certain WAAC players have been showing up less and less, because they aren't winning as often. The majority of my LCS consists of casual gamers, only a few play competitively. So no, I don't feel bad. Go to any magic tournament and try to tell them you forgot a rule, and you could very well get DQed from the tourney. I don't see why a 40k tourney (with more money in prize support spread only among the top 3 normally, I might add) shouldn't adhere to the rules just as much. I had no idea people took it that seriously, I'm a bit naive about tournament play. To be honest I wouldn't want any part of that sort of scene. Even a guaranteed $150 wouldn't tempt me to spend a whole day playing in that environment
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Post by killme304 on Jul 31, 2013 15:05:11 GMT
I actually enjoy the competitiveness, since I don't get that in normal games. Its fine in small doses, but if every game was like that then yeah, I'd burn out fast.
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Post by Xantige on Aug 4, 2013 18:42:34 GMT
I've got a new one: People that know about 40k, and talk bad about it. Saying "it's too expensive for me" is one thing, saying "it's effing expensive, those people have no lives" is another. And I also hate video gamers that say "The 40k wargame is too hard and expensive, go play the video game it's way better" like they're OPINION is FACT and NO ONE IN THE UNIVERSE would ever enjoy wargaming.
Also, it kind of irks me to hear people who work in a pizza place with no future aspirations, spending heir paychecks on booze and pot, calling 40k a "waste of money" it just seems ironic.
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Post by commandersasha on Aug 5, 2013 9:31:45 GMT
Also, it kind of irks me to hear people who work in a pizza place with no future aspirations, spending heir paychecks on booze and pot, calling 40k a "waste of money" it just seems ironic. Yay, Xantige is back! And yes, I agree with that one. As a 42yr old who got into 40K about 6 years ago, I have spent a few thousand pounds on mine and my son's hobby. Compare that to if my hobby had been golf, cars, photography or an affair with a younger woman, and I think 40K still comes out as good value for the happy hours spent!
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Post by robomummy on Aug 5, 2013 21:20:55 GMT
New Hatretd, Freakin Catachan weapon arm assembly. Is it too much to ask that the gun and the arm be one piece? I spent nearly an hour assembling a 10 man squad yesterday and the arm piece includes the weapon stock and trigger while they give you a separate gun with the stock and trigger still attached so you need to cut those off. then the arms that they give you don't match up so I have a bunch of models that look like the guns got hideously bent or damaged if you look at them from the front.
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Post by Xantige on Aug 7, 2013 22:26:38 GMT
or an affair with a younger woman, and I think 40K still comes out as good value for the happy hours spent! That made me laugh! Hobby Hatred of the week: When I have models sitting on my work tray for weeks because life keeps me from having time to do them. And: When you badly want to work on a model that requires a solid hour or more or undisturbed time to work on (putty work and magnetizing this time), but all you have is 10 minutes here and there to paint.
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Post by Overread on Aug 16, 2013 11:26:40 GMT
Compare that to if my hobby had been golf, cars, photography or an affair with a younger woman, and I think 40K still comes out as good value for the happy hours spent! Warhammer - its the expensive hobby for those with no other hobby Warhammer - its the cheap hobby for everyone who already has another hobby ;P Seriously camera gear makes 40K look cheap = just a camera is the same cost as a full 40K army - a really good one would get you every bell and whilst in the army you could ever need.
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Post by tylertt on Aug 19, 2013 6:26:57 GMT
or an affair with a younger woman, and I think 40K still comes out as good value for the happy hours spent! That made me laugh! Hobby Hatred of the week: When I have models sitting on my work tray for weeks because life keeps me from having time to do them. And: When you badly want to work on a model that requires a solid hour or more or undisturbed time to work on (putty work and magnetizing this time), but all you have is 10 minutes here and there to paint. Agreed! Absolutely despise working on my models for small periods of time. I prefer at least two hours minimum to even consider picking up my paint brush. I also hate GW brushes. I learned all about cleaning and maintaining brushes when I got into the hobby, and the only brushes that have ever frayed and become insanely unusable are my GW brushes. (Not bashing on GW as a company at all, as I hate getting into the GW SUCKS debates, but just the one particular product they have.) One other thing that drives me nuts is the constant reference to being a 'nerd' because thats what 40K is. Its a shame I didn't get the memo that doing drugs, drinking all the time and have 0% of anything to show for yourself for all the money you 'productively' spend means your cool stuff. I mean what is uncool about 40K? It is intense warefare with absolutely amazing games, stories, books, video games, and so much more. It sucks when a game that involves intelegence is interpreted as unintelgent by the actual unintelegent. WORST. But man, I would also hate it to have arrogant people at a tournament or my LGS, but I have never been to a tournament before as I just play with my 4 buddies, and the closest GW store is an hour away so I have yet to play there. I honeslty just love the hobby, and the whole universe of 40K itself. I can understand why some people would get intense, but seriously if anyone ever acted like that to me, I'd probably just rage quit the match politely. But on a positive note, I'm thankful to have such a sweet hobby!
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Post by mantisstalker on Aug 19, 2013 10:11:33 GMT
HH: When you walk into a new gaming place with its own social group, and you can instantly tell who's the Alpha gamer just by the smell... .-.
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Post by milkybarnid on Aug 20, 2013 19:32:34 GMT
HH - Zoanthropes, the bane of my army, haven't played in awhile (about 4 or 5 months now) but I opened my case and out of the 5 I have 2 of them came apart, now I have to glue them back on (I cant pin/mag as I am really bad at that kind of thing) and it always takes me ages to sort them out. tylertt - I know what that's like, im the only person in my group of friends who plays 40k, and I only go to my LGS every now and then, the friend who got me into 40k has moved away which sucks. The rest of my friends are taking the mickey all the time when I'm fixing/painting/etc
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Post by Inquisitor Stingray on Sept 3, 2013 1:43:47 GMT
Hobby Hatred: Finecast models that won't stick together, regardless of how much/little and how many different kinds of glue you apply.
Hooby Hatred of the past: Desperately trying to glue together big pewter models who are inherently so heavy that nothing but the foulest and most potent of garage-mixture kan keep them together. The metal Hive Tyrant and metal Steggadon were but terrible, terrible models in that regard. Their pieces rarely fit together at all and its difficult to clean up the mold lines. Worst of all, when your fingers get stuck due to exposure to aforementioned witch-brew-glue.
I can't say I've ever really met prejudice or scornful comments related to my hobbies. Usually people are either fascinated with the models, but have no interest in the actual game, or they make a futile attempt at sounding unimpressed with the concept, when it is all too obvious that they would love to be a part of it. Then again, I mostly hang out with likeminded, so meeting any discrimination from them would be beyond hypocritical.
Hobby Hatred: This is a big one. A friend, or I should say acquainted of mine started playing Necrons shortly before the release of their new codex, accumulating in little over a year 7000 points of Necrons, much more than the rest of us had for our respective armies. Having purchased, painted and to some degree played with just about every Necron unit available he got bored, chose to sell off his colelction and start an army of Warmachines. Now, I don't have anything against him changing his mind (although one would have expected him to realize he didn't care for the game earlier) and no one is going to force him back into 40K. But up until recently he has been taunting the rest of us about how 40K was a (please do not swear) game with (please do not swear) lore and terrible balance, as opposed to his own Warmachines that is perfect without flaws. I say recently, because apparently he is selling off his Warmachines army as well.
TL;DR People who think their choice of tabletop game is superior whatever other people chose. It's like witnessing console fanboys all over again. I may pick the PS4 over the Xbox One, that doesn't mean the latter isen't worth picking up, and if I was offered a Wii U on the street, I sure wouldn't turn it down.
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