A Glands

[arctica]

Are Adrenal Glands worth their points for granting the +1 to Strength in the turn they charge?

It seems like it would be for lower S units like gargs and ripper swarms, but not sure about the bigger models...

[Jabberwocky]

Mostly just for S3 nowadays, since losing +1 Init.

[GuardDog78]

Can be a worthwhile upgrade along with TS for gargs if you field them in a large brood with the intention of assaulting.
Viable with hormagaunts and steamers...but they've lost their luster in 6e.
Monstrous creatures don't need it since they have the Smash rule. The one exception being tervigons since they grant it to nearby gants.

[revx]

its worth while on anything S3 that will be assualting (not on your S3 screens though) and the tervigon because it buffs gants. other than that they arent really worth it.

on stealers they used to be good for the I but now with overwatch and all the shooting stealers have to take its better to take extra bodies than AG.

[sturm]

Jan 15, 2013 13:28:13 GMT GuardDog78 said:

Can be a worthwhile upgrade along with TS for gargs if you field them in a large brood with the intention of assaulting.
Viable with hormagaunts and steamers...but they've lost their luster in 6e.
Monstrous creatures don't need it since they have the Smash rule. The one exception being versions since they grant it to nearby gants.

I think you meant tervigons. But yeah, pretty much the only big guy that can take AG without wasting points. I've been facing a lot of dark eldar/eldar army lately, and the extra str gives you a chance to ID on the turn the tervigon charges. Although in that case it really is about scaring your opponent more than getting to ID something.

[GuardDog78]

Fixed my post...i typed tervigons...but autucorrect just hates Tyranids...

[infornography]

On anything with an odd numbered strength, it opens up the option of instant deathing something new without having to smash or rerolling wounds with poisoned attacks on the charge. That is pretty much just gaunts, gants, Tyranid Prime, Tervigon, Carnifex, and Harpy. For everything else it is pretty much a complete waste. Mostly though just worth it on gaunts, gants, and Tervigons though since the harpy would be better utilized at range or assaulting vehicles and smashing them and the Tyranid Prime already has a chance of instant deathing things with one or two boneswords. Some do take it on the fex to bring it up to 10 strength on the charge without having to smash, but I don't generally recommend it.

[wisdomseyes1]

Poor Khorne Daemons. They were made for the purpose of using that initiative bonus.

For the powerlevel overall, I would have preferred it if they kept the I bonus over the S bonus. Oh well, can't change what has been written.

As said, S3 is really all that cares about it. Sometimes broodlords (charge for a 2+ to wound against T4) or Tyranid Prime

[halos]

On S3 it opens up a wealth of tactical options; lets you smash open AV10 rear vehicles and force 25% more wounds on T4 units.
Counting the Tervigon under this too seen as it's AGs tend to see more use from the gants it commands.

Otherwise no, not all that useful with the loss of the I boost. In 5th it was useful on I4 things to boost them above MEQs, or I6 to get them in before GK halberds.

[GuardDog78]

I miss putting it on my trygons so they would go before those pesky marines...

[jhussey]

I use them on my hormies and stealers, I put it on my warriors too. Even though they are S4 it boosts them to 5. Yes it makes them more expensive, and I only play mine as assault so 35 points for one model is expensive, but I have such good luck with them.

[wisdomseyes1]

Jan 16, 2013 12:55:58 GMT GuardDog78 said:

I miss putting it on my trygons so they would go before those pesky marines...

We still get to go before the important marines, the ones with the powerfists. And of course if you make it a prime you have a very good chance of killing the powerfist by choice, no matter how many guys are in the unit.

6's are nice...

[Raven]

Jan 16, 2013 18:31:58 GMT wisdomseyes1 said:

Jan 16, 2013 12:55:58 GMT GuardDog78 said:

I miss putting it on my trygons so they would go before those pesky marines...

We still get to go before the important marines, the ones with the powerfists. And of course if you make it a prime you have a very good chance of killing the powerfist by choice, no matter how many guys are in the unit.

6's are nice...

Except going at the same time against a squad of 10+ all throwing Krak Grenades down your Trygon's throat is not a fun time.

[TheContortionist]

Jan 16, 2013 12:55:58 GMT GuardDog78 said:

I miss putting it on my trygons so they would go before those pesky marines...

this

[Illithid]

Jan 16, 2013 18:31:58 GMT wisdomseyes1 said:

Jan 16, 2013 12:55:58 GMT GuardDog78 said:

I miss putting it on my trygons so they would go before those pesky marines...

We still get to go before the important marines, the ones with the powerfists. And of course if you make it a prime you have a very good chance of killing the powerfist by choice, no matter how many guys are in the unit.

6's are nice...

Between taking a few wounds on the way there, Overwatch and then two krak grenades hits, had a Trygon go down to standard marines the other day.