Advice on 2 vs 2 - 29th of december

[amareis]

Hi guys

I checked the forum posts in here just to see if someone else was having the same problems deciding on what to bring to the table. It seems I'm not the only one trying to decide on bringing a Dfex in a pod or a Trygon as well as deciding on Swarmy or a Flyrant.

The background
I'll be playing in a 2 vs 2 where we pair up IG and Tyranids (the 'nids have infected the poor guardsmen) vs GK.
The game will consist of 3000 pts pr side divided into two FOC's on each side.
I'll, of course, be playing the Tyranid with the IG.

I've come up with a pair of lists.
1st list is based on a core with deepstriking units to slow the GK and make them castle, effectively making indirect IG pizzas even more effective.
2nd list is a stronger core with more critter, basically more models.

Core:
2 Tervigons pumped on psychic powers (maybe claws)
Mandatory gaunts
Swarmy/Flyrant (if swarmy then include Tguards)
8 Ymgarls

Optional:
2 x 15 hormas with poison or 1 x 20 hormas with poison that outflank (if I take HT)
Hive Guards
Biovores
Warriors
Doom
Trygon variants
Prime
Devilfex in a pod

I only got 1 pod and I prefer not to proxy too much.

So my question is if I should acknowledge the Force weapons of the GK and leave the Trygon/Carni/Swarmy home and bet for tons of models to swarm and tarpit or I do the opposite.

I mostly take the Tervigons to spawn tarpits and hope for Iron Arm. I know that the IG can hold the base while I spend all my time smashing apart the GK.
I can't add much more, cause these are the models I've got. So no flying warriors or swarms of stealers.

The GK players will at least bring the following:
Paladins (probably 10)
minimum 2 dakka dreads
Max 1 flyer (stormraven)
1 Landraider (most likely with DCA + inquisitor) could be 2
1 Dreadknight
Shunting power armour GK and strike squads which prevent DS within 12"
I HATE those guys. (please do not swear) warp quake. But I can wing it as long as he doesn't place them all in one pile. When I shadow in the warp close enough, he usually stops casting it out of fear of losing guys.

If I get some good responses then I'll post a batrep, maybe even some pictures. My Nids are embarrasing while the GK and IG are awesomely painted, by the same guy.

[amareis]

I forgot to mention that my teams main tactic is to either seperate a part of their army for me to chew on (refused flank) or try and get them to pile up in the middle of the board using outflank and bait.

This all depends on the terrain and their setup.

[lordofthebrood]

Ymgarls, Doom and Flyrant, personally... If they're playing GKs then they deserve the cheesiness.

[tylertt]

I'd like to see a batrep for this battle if your up for it.

Personally I would take some Zoans in there as well. They are one of my favorite units though, and a unit of 3 in a pod can be devastating... but the quake issue would be annoying.

[amareis]

I'm not a 100% sure on the Flyrant. Never fielded it before, and the 1 hit = 50% downed status isn't appealing. I know opponents fear them greatly though Which is a good thing for us.

I'll post a quick batrep and if people are up for more, I'll complete it.

Only 7 hours away and just need to finish 7 gaunts, then I can sleep...

[sturm]

Dec 29, 2012 1:50:26 GMT amareis said:

I'm not a 100% sure on the Flyrant. Never fielded it before, and the 1 hit = 50% downed status isn't appealing. I know opponents fear them greatly though Which is a good thing for us.

I'll post a quick batrep and if people are up for more, I'll complete it.

Only 7 hours away and just need to finish 7 gaunts, then I can sleep...

Isnt it 33% chance of getting grounded? I have a 3+ save in mind. Even then though it's a pretty high chance of crashing, but a little bit more hope!

[Jabberwocky]

Yes 3+

Well worth it when you consider you cut out usually 75% of shots that would have hit, assuming BS4 not twin linked. Immunity to blasts and templates isn't bad either.

Then theres the tactical benefits of being able to hit 2 units in a turn thanks to vector strike and shooting, as well as ridiculous movement and being able to leave the board.

[amareis]

I'll write something when I've slept. Too tired now.
But Tyranids and IG won the day by tabling the GK. Rolling enfeeble on 3 MCs does a big difference when fighting paladins and Termies. With enough rolls those armour saves will eventually fail.