Mycetic Spore and Objectives

[tylertt]

Can Mycetic spores deny objectives? I was reading over the rules and found that there is nothing written that states they can not.

Could someone clarify this ruling for me?

Cause if so, they could potentially be used effectively to deny some objectives.

[lordbob]

Absolutely they can, they are not vehicles, they are not swarms or fliers, they are monstrous creatures, which can deny objectives. Though they're only T4 I don't know how long they can hold it for, but maybe if it's in area terrain it would prove a nuisance

[tylertt]

Thats sweet, would they count as scoring in terms of capturing objecives? Being that transport is technically considered to be a part of the group it is dropped with.

Do say I dropped a group of devigaunts on a objective, and they left, or died. Would the spore be able to hold it?

And also would it count as a kill point?

[WestRider]

As far as I can tell, Mycetic Spores purchased for Troops Units are Scoring Units. And yes, they do count as Kill Points/VP in Purge the Alien.

[swarmy]

Nov 19, 2012 16:32:13 GMT WestRider said:

As far as I can tell, Mycetic Spores purchased for Troops Units are Scoring Units. And yes, they do count as Kill Points/VP in Purge the Alien.

Wouldn't the spore itself have to be a troop choice seeing as how it's not entirely the same thing as a drop pod? Mainly the fact that it's alive unlike a drop pod.

[lordbob]

I wouldn't think they count as troops choice because they aren't troops they are dedicated transports, but I don't have my rulebook on me, it might have been overlooked because they thought it was covered by most transports being vehicles

[Jabberwocky]

While the rulebook for dedicated transports does now say they count as troops when bought for a troop, they have their own rule in the codex making them non-scoring.

It definitely counts as a denial unit though.

[tylertt]

Perfect, thanks for the clarification.

[WestRider]

And more directly relevant, Mycetic Spores have a Rule in their entry on Pg. 90 that says they are never a Scoring Unit.

I need to get back in the habit of always checking the books before posting

[tylertt]

As do I lol. But I'm glad I found it could deny objectives, as it seemed like a grey areas as it is not a scoring unit, but at the same time, denying is not technically "scoring" per say.

At least our transports have a one up on any other deep striking vehicle (that I know of).

[Jestar]

Nov 20, 2012 16:41:51 GMT tylertt said:

As do I lol. But I'm glad I found it could deny objectives, as it seemed like a grey areas as it is not a scoring unit, but at the same time, denying is not technically "scoring" per say.

At least our transports have a one up on any other deep striking vehicle (that I know of).

Being able to shoot the turn they arrive is another one up against deep striking vehicles.

[jifel]

Now, if only we could disembark 6" out of them...

[ranmafan]

Pretty sure they DO count as Linebreakers too, IIRC. They're not scoring, but they ARE denial, which makes a well-dropped Spore a point of contention for opponents.

[squash]

I believe they're also characters, and now warlord traits mean enemies can really take advantage of that.

[Jabberwocky]

Spores are not characters. No where are they even hinted at being so.