1000 point Nidzilla'ish

[Goregut]

Hello Hive,

For about a year i have been neglecting my Tyranids in favor of my Ork army. But with a 1000 point tournament coming up i am thinking about giving my Nidz another go. Normally i always ran lots of Hormagaunts, Termagaunts, some Hive guards and a Prime. But this time i wanted to go for a different approach.

So here is the list i have in mind.

HQ: Hive Tyrant, Lash whip and bonesword, scyting talons, armoured shell.

HQ: 2 Tyrant Guards, Rending claws, scyting talons.

Troop: 10 Termagaunts

Troop: Tervigon, AG, TS, Catalyst, Onslaught (which will most likely be switched for some Biomancy powers)

Troop: 6 Warriors, Deathspitters

Heavy support: Trygon

With 3 big monstrous creatures, i hope most high str shots will go towards them, leaving my warriors and Termagaunts untouched to go for any objectives or give support where ever it's needed. And with 3 Synapse units, i don't think i will have to worry about instinctive behaviour much.

Any feedback would be much appreciated.

Thanks for reading and happy wargaming.

[thatnidguy]

I know you wanted to try something different, but in a low point game, swarm is king. For the points you put into the tyrant. you can have a good looking prime for 95pts. drop the tyrant guard. you can add another tervigon, Tguants, or some anti-tank zoanthropes. Which i think people really need to use more. warp blast is str5 ap 3 24" no armor saves more most things, and the have the power to pop land raiders easy.

[Goregut]

Thanks for the tips. The problem for me at the moment though is that every time i play a swarm list, i get annihalated. Most players at my LGS use lots of flamers, large blast templates, rapid fire units or have some unit in cover that eat me when i assault them because i go at Initiative 1. Most of my squads get kiled in 1 to 2 turns tops.

That is mainly the reason why i wanted to go for a different approach. And it might not be the best list overall, but i hope most of my opponents won't be prepared for it and will lack the stopping power to kill 5 toughness 6 units. And yes, i would love to add a second Tervigon but simply lack the funds to buy two of em (Don't have any at all at the moment)

So what i would really like to know is how this list would perform overall. Will it have a fighting chance or should i really not put my hopes too high?

[swarmy]

Maybe subtract the two tyrant guards and add in some hive guard and more gants? It seems a little light on the anti-armor. At 1k points plenty of armies can pump out the metal boxes...pirate ships...truks. Hive guard are at least T6 as well so it's not too big of a change. I still haven't seen the whole "mech is dead" thing where I play, maybe it's different where you play though.

[sunshine]

As much as I love warriors, and I love them to death, for the points you put into that squad you could have another trygon, and you could give it toxin sacs. Then personally I would take out the tyrant guards and give the tyrant wings, 2x scything talons and toxin sacs to keep it cheap and still super killy.

Basically, I would go with this list-

Hive Tyrant-240
wings, two sets of scything talons, toxin sacs

11 Termagants-55
Tervigon-245
Crushing Claws, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Onslaught, Catalyst

Trygon Prime-250
Toxin Sacs
Trygon-210
Toxin Sacs

Total:1000 on the nose.

But hey, that might just be me.

*Edit- I know the Tervs expensive, but now it's also amazing at anything you would want a tervigon for and it will open up a can of whoop-ass on anyone stupid enough to get close to it. Also I made one trygon a prime to replace the lost synapse of the warriors. When I run a list like this, it generally just steamrolls any thing due to the high number of toughness 6 wounds, and the Flyrant being a powerfull HQ assassin.

[Deadlink]

Hi,

I see your haveing a problem here........

Okay so you looking like the nid zilla list type of person. But like everyone before me has said swarm is king. And your local players bring Flamers you say.

1000 points no probablem:

== HQ ==
Tervigon (1) - Stinger Salvo, Toxin Sacs = 170 pts.

== Elites ==
Hive Guard Brood (2) = 100 pts.
Hive Guard Brood (2) = 100 pts.

== Troops ==
Termagant Brood (10) - Fleshborer = 50 pts.
Termagant Brood (10) - Fleshborer = 50 pts.
Termagant Brood (10) - Fleshborer = 50 pts.
Tervigon (1) - Stinger Salvo = 160 pts.
Tervigon (1) - Stinger Salvo = 160 pts.
Tervigon (1) - Stinger Salvo = 160 pts.

== Total ==
1000 pts.


4 MC, Pretty sure thats nid zilla for 1000 pts, think of all the terms if thats not a swarm the I don't know what is. 4 Hive guard for all your tank popping needs, incase teh Tervis get lazy that is. And well heres so Swarm King-Zilla army

Thats my 2 cents.

What do you think?

Deadlink97~

[bugpunk]

Deadlink

I love the list you brought to the table. My girlfriend runs Eldar and luck would have it that she brings her fire dragons and harlequin troupe too.
That Nidzilla you got going on may be the pride I needed swallowing. I ran this and had bad luck with 1k games.

==HQ==
Prime (1)- Regeneration, Rending = 95pts

==Elite==
Hive Guard (3) = 150
Zoanthropes (3) = 180

==Troops==
Termagants (15)- Devourers = 150
Hormagaunts (30) - Toxin Sacs = 210

==Fast Attack==
Harpy (1)- Regeneration, Twin-Linked Venom Cannon

1000 pts.

It seemed solid on paper running with speed and flanking manoeuvres but in play it is just duck hunt with Nids.

[Goregut]

Thanks for all the tips guys :-)

After reading all advice and going over my list again, i came up with the following:


HQ: Hive Tyrant, dual scyting talons and Wings

Elite: 2 Hive guards

Troop: Tervigon, Toxin sacs, 1 extra psychic power

Troop: Tervigon, Toxin sacs, 1 extra psychic power

Troop: 10 Termagants

Troop: 10 Termagants

Heavy: Trygon



With this list i have 4 troop choices, some ranged Anti tank, a fast flying creature for killing fast units, lots of psychic powers and 26 toughness 6 wounds, which should be a hard nut to crack for most enemies.

I'm very excited to give this a try.
Thanks again all.

[thisguy1109]

Good Luck with your list!

I have a 1,000 point battle this evening and am running something similar:

HQ
DakkaFlyrant - 260
DakkaFlyrant - 260

TROOPS
Tervigon w/ Scything Talons, Toxin Sacs & Catalyst - 190
Tervigon w/ Scything Talons, Toxin Sacs & Catalyst - 190
Termaguants x10 - 50
Termaguants x10 - 50

4 MCs, plus the flyarants can get real close real fast if you need to pop something that the devourers cant handle. 2 Tervigons will make enough of a swarm and do 2 key things:
1) SWARM
2) swing the points in your favor