Termigaunts

[labinnac]

So in my last game I fielded 15 termies with devs they died before they even ahd the chance to lay the fire down. Is 15 to many points worth of models or should I just take the devorours off? They almost seem like a waste for units that may get one volley in if your lucky I used them for the troops choice tervie (that is just too awesome a scoring monstrous creature?)

[Deleted]

The best way to use them is to either DS them with a Pod or have them escorted by a Tervigon that spawns regular termagants to screen them as you advance.

[labinnac]

I did the tervie tactic. It think it may have just been bad luck on my part. I was teamed up with a player who had only played twice (this game BEING hi second game) so I spent most of the game explaining to him how to use nids more efficiently (his brother is a necron played and had neglected to teach him the finer points of CC). I never knew it could be so hard to focus on your tactics when your helping a new guy and that damn deep striking Monolith didn't help rawr I hate monoliths!

[coredump]

Halos seems to have pretty good luck with the devilgaunts.

Try and keep in cover, and use Endurance if you have any extras.

[halos]

Gants are T3 with a 6+ save; survivable they are not. Probably one of the weakest units out there really. To counter-act that they are pretty cheap. The minute you start throwing upgrades on there you don't gain any increased resilience but up the points cost, resulting in less gants.

However, that is not to say that upgraded gants are without merit. With your example a gant with Devourer is the cost of 2 gants for the firepower of 3. (plus extra range and things) so offensively it's not a bad deal. Just remember they are not going to survive on their own.

You need to exploit cover, keep out of LoS until necessary, provide lots of alternate targets for your opponents firepower; gants are assumed to be weak and expendable (and, in a way, they are) so it is easy to draw an opponents fire away from them. Don't sacrifice them in assaults they won't win, in fact with Devilgants I would say don't charge unless absolutely necessary, use spawned gants instead, you're paying for the gun after all.

There are lots of tricks you can use to keep them safe, FnP is not quite so helpful now but can be taken against power weapons, so Endurance is useful. A nearby Tervigon provides Poison and can add psychic support; Enfeeble can turn a miring combat into a resounding victory thanks to re-rollable poison/lowered enemy S.

tl;dr: They're strong offensively but very weak defensively but keep them out of harms way and pick targets carefully and they can serve your army well.

[elitemaster]

The way I use them is I have my Tyrant with Hive Commander and outflank the gaunts. Having a brood of 10 guys shotting 30 shots from 18" away hurts any enemy even termys. The way I try to keep them alive when they outflank is over some ystealers and shricks pop up in the same area making my opponet have to shot at a lot of diffrent tagets. Even if he shots the gaunts then I have a lot more units coming closer from the front so by turn 2 he is fighting in his line all ready and has a lot more gaunts coming form the front.

[labinnac]

I'm just working on this list of about 950-1000 points. Yeah devil gaunts sound awesome just gotta give my enemy more targets. I did find that they spent (and wasted in my opinion) a lot of fire on my flyrant. There was a turn the SM player focused all his shots on the flyrant this may be my way of keeping gants safe you know the danger they don't realize is there till it's killed an entire squad and by then it's to late

[DarkGuard]

I fear you may be expecting too much from your Termagants. Unless you make them Devilgaunts they're just a screen. Use them to shield over units, to overwhelm enemy lines, chuck them in the way of fire to draw fire from other units or stick them in cover on objectives. Or of course use them in assault backed up by a Tervigon.

[core6188]

As they said it really depends on what you want them to do. You ether want to run them with a tervigon or drop them in a pod.

Terms with a tervigon should both be troop choices for capturing purposes. Upgrade the tervigon in order to make it and the terms last longer and do more damage with at least toxic sac & catalyst. DO NOT upgrade the termagants if you are strapped for points. Even without devourers termagants will do their job. You will need ten terms as normal, but it is a good idea to add more depending on the point total of the game.

Termagants in spore pod are a suicide squad. I always play them against armies that tend to keep expensive/painful pieces in the back like Guard or Tau. Spores can hold ten to twenty terms. Terms in a spore should be upgrades with devourers. This is also good at drawing fire away from your main forces, because if they don't shoot at your terms they will receive at least sixty shot a turn. Also in terms of placement remember that the spore pod may not be able to capture, but it may contest.

[labinnac]

hmm well I was gonna take out my guards to save points to buff up the tervigon and add another warrior but maybe just removing the devourers will be just as effective.