Hive tyrant build/setup?

[jonagorn]

So I'm planning on getting a Hive Tyrant, I know I'm going to use BS & LW but I'm not sure for the other arms. I was thinking of using a HVC since I'll be playing against Necrons and Eldar quite a lot. Any suggeestions for what I should use as well as BS & LW?

Also, for a shooty Carnifex, I'm using twin-linked devourers but not sure what else to use.

[PumpkinHead]

Is the tyrant walking or flying? IMO, it is best to magnetize all the arms so you can swap out the weapon load out as the meta changes. I am currently trying out 1 winged tyrant with 2x TL Dev, and 1 winged tyrant with LW/BS and Scything Talons. I only have psychic shooting with him but he seems to wreck faces pretty well.

Again with the fex, magnetize the arms. I have pretty much gone solely to 2x Tl Dev on my fexs if I run them.

[jangustus]

A pair of Twin linked Brainleech Devourers, they are even better now than they were in 5th.

My Tyrant always has a set to give him some nice firepower.

[Deleted]

Magnetize the arms so you can try them all! There's tons of guides on the internet and it's well worth it.

[nalathani]

It's been said but it's so important I'm going to say it again. Magnetize! I had some warriors and primes I didn't magnetize and now I'm stuck buying more 50 dollar boxes of warriors...if I had spent 20 minutes and 10 dollars on magnets back then, I could try any combination I want right now

It's even easier with big things like Tyrants and Tyrannofexes.

[halos]

The heavy Devourers really are one of the best options I think, excellent fire-rate, decent range, reasonable strength, plus twin-linked on top of all that. Not to mention that in 6th S6 is readily capable of wrecking the lighter armoured vehicles and you get Precision Shots as a character; so the more shots = the more chances to kill that Fist/Melta/whatever.

On a walking Tyrant I also swear by Armoured Shell, now that it's not getting ignored by every power weapon under the sun it really boosts the Tyrant's survivability as she can wade right into combats that previously would have murdered her outright.

[jonagorn]

Ok, so is it a good idea to have BS & LW with a set of twin-linked devourers? I was thinking of having BS & LW with scything talons but are his psychic power good enough to use as an alternative to ranged weapons? It'll be a walking tyrant by the way. Also, I have a carnifex with a set of twin-linked devourers what else should I put on it, if I'll be playing against necrons and eldar? I was thinking of a venom canon since it has the capability of hitting multiple targets

[grantera]

put another set of twin linked H.devourers on it, might need the extra shots to hit those pesky fliers

[jonagorn]

Jul 29, 2012 15:32:41 GMT grantera said:

put another set of twin linked H.devourers on it, might need the extra shots to hit those pesky fliers

Are you referring to the tyrant or carnifex?

[demoric]

There are a bunch of opinions as to what to use. I personally magnetized my fex, but my Tyrants I have glued permanently. However if you are using the new plastic model then I would recommend magnetizing it. I don't recommend more than one set of shooting weapons on a tyrant as you can only shoot twice. This leaves you with one regular weapon and one psychic shooting attack.

I use:
2xScyTals to re-roll all failed to hits (use venom in 6th to re-roll all failed to wounds on enemies of equal or lesser strength)
1xScytals (LW&BS are a better option though), and Devourers (good strength, twin-linked, on a six you can choose the target).

Also I wouldn't use BS & LW with scything talons especially if you ever intend on using Old Adversary.

[maine]

If you take Old Adversary, then you get no benefit from a single pair of Scything Talons (Old Adversary is better as it rerolls 1s on Wounds and Shooting too, and affects units within 6").

As for magnetizing - I used to do that, but then weapons fall off, get lost, get bumped into funny angles while playing... and frankly, it rarely looks good. However, it's a great way to experiment with the options without committing.

[jonagorn]

Ok, so I'm going to put a set of TL Devourers on my tyrant but I'm still not that sure about the carnifex.

[halos]

2x TL Devourers is probably the best way to run a Fex nowadays, lots of shots outweighs the low BS and, again, S6 is adequate in wrecking transports.

Combat fexes I cannot see working particularly well, especially in comparison to the Tervigon.

I suppose you could play around with the Strangle/Venom Cannon, although I'd be wary of the small blast with the VC due to the low BS.

[killme304]

Small blasts really aren't that great at causing multiple hits, and bugs have terrible BS (only orcs have it worse than us). Any scatter roll above a 3 (which is most of the time) will miss the target entirely. Large Blast not only hits more models normally, it also reduces the chance of missing on a scatter roll. Also remember you have a 2/3 chance of rolling an arrow on the scatter die.

TL devourers are the best guns you can put on for all comers. ID Dark Eldar = no FNP for them. Every hit will wound on a 2+ for most non-bike units. Twin-linked makes up for the bad BS, making us hit 75% of the time on average.

If you are making a flyrant, its hard for me to talk against 2 sets of brain leech worms, especially since the Tyrant has naturally high I already, and ignores armor even without the bonesword.

If your just going for a deathstar tyrant, boneswords and lashwhips are fine, and talons will keep him cheap, but you can still put devourers on if you really want.

As for carnifexen, Tervigons do what Carnifexen do, but have 2 more wounds, a bunch of rolls on biomancy to get even better, and can be scoring units that produce scoring units. Really hard to justify a melee fex after that comparison. Lets not forget that Trygons also bring the pain in a much more point-conscience form in the same slot. Therefore, you will be better off using them as more gun platforms, so see my above recommendations on shooting.