MCs and armor saves

[sturm]

Got my second match of 6th ed. today against a necron. At one point, my tervigon charged into one of his squad, and basically, he said that MCs CC attacks don't ignore armor saves anymore, unless I use Smash.

Is this correct? He's the one with rulebook (damn you slow shipping seller!) so i didnt get much time to look for the rule, but unless i missed something, it looks like he was right. Anyone has a page number or a similar thread addressing that? I didnt find any.

[Geneva]

MCs don't use Smash. They have it all the time. MCs are now Ap2 and have the option to halve their attacks for double their strength. That's what the Smash rule does. Hope that helps to clear things up a bit.

[sturm]

Jul 7, 2012 22:34:50 GMT Geneva said:

MCs don't use Smash. They have it all the time. MCs are now Ap2 and have the option to halve their attacks for double their strength. That's what the Smash rule does. Hope that helps to clear things up a bit.

Just to be clear (french canadian here), all MCs attack are AP2 and then they have the option of halving their attacks for 2S up to 10. No link between full/half attacks and the AP. Is that what you are saying?

[ziyousansz]

Right. Any model with Smash always hits at AP2 unless if something gives it a better AP. The "1/2A , 2xS, reroll Pen rolls" part is optional. It's on pg. 42.

[sturm]

Jul 7, 2012 22:48:19 GMT ziyousansz said:

Right. Any model with Smash always hits at AP2 unless if something gives it a better AP. The "1/2A , 2xS, reroll Pen rolls" part is optional. It's on pg. 42.

Great, thanks. Sounds like what I was thinking. Can't wait to get the BRB here. Monday hopefully...

[coredump]

It is always polite to ask someone to kindly show you the rule in the rulebook.

oh, and sorry to hear about being French Canadian.... I hear they are working on a cure...

;-)

[sturm]

Jul 7, 2012 23:02:23 GMT coredump said:

It is always polite to ask someone to kindly show you the rule in the rulebook.

oh, and sorry to hear about being French Canadian.... I hear they are working on a cure...

;-)

He read pretty quickly a part of the rule and it was not a game changer, so it didnt matter so much to me at that point. I was asking merely for future reference.

Also, lol @ the cure thing. You're going in my WHF dwarves grudge book.

[coredump]

Heh... good thing I don't play WHF.

It was a somewhat common mistake when the book first came out. (way back last week and all...) But Smash gives two things
AP2
Smash Attacks.