Genestealer Cult Stealer rumour roundup. FW allies.
Sept 19, 2016 13:09:36 GMT
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Post by Davor on Sept 19, 2016 13:09:36 GMT
Sept 29
From Lady Atia. Forge World GSC allies.
Sept 27
On Dakka from Orlandothetechnicolour
Sept 26
From Shadowfinder on The Tyranid Hive here. Thanks for the help.
Again from Tyrandi607 on Dakka
From Tyranid607 on Dakka. Stealer dataslate
More from Tyranid607 from Dakka.
shadowfinder wrote:
Did we get the doting throng formation?? I may have missed that one.
gain Zealot whilist 12" of magus
reroll failed hit roll of every round of close combat not just first by the unit magus join
can reroll fail blessing to unit in this formation
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cultist1428 wrote:
Have we had any info on the stats/points/special rules/options of the Primus yet? From the armoury page it looks like he has 3 wounds which would be an improvement.
75pts
WS5 BS4 S4 T3 W3 I4 A3 LD10 Sv5+
Wargear
/needle pistol
/bonesword
/rending claws
/toxin injector
Special Rules
/Cult Ambush
/Hatred
/IC
/infiltrate
/Return to Shadows
/Unquestioning Loyalty
Frdly units of GSC faction within 12" of this model have Hatred Special
More frome Shadowfinder. Thank you very much keeping me update when I was out.
From Shadowfinder here on The Tyranid Hive.
*edit* Took pics out just in case it's a no no. If Yori says they are ok, I will put them back.
More from Tyrnaid607 on Dakka
Found the Bells of Lost Souls video for the Genestealer Cult codex. www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPYmDuJtnLA
Please Yori tell me if these pics are ok to post or not.
From Dakka, Tyranid607
broodmind
primars power warp charge 1/ malediction single unit within 24" reduce WS/BS/I/A by 1 to a min of 1
psychic stimulus warp charge 1/ blessing frdly unit not in combat gain relentless and fleet, can charge even ran in shooting phase
psionic blast 1/ witchfire 24" S5 Ap3 Assult 1 Blast
Might from beyond 1/ blessing a frdly unit 24" +1S and gain rage
mental onslaught 2/ focussed witchfire 24" both Psyker and target model roll a dice + LDS, if drawn target model -3I until next turn. if Psyker is higher, target suffer wound equal to the difference and no armor and cover saves are allowed
mind control 2/ focussed witchfire targets a single non-vehicle unit not lock in combat and makes shooting attack exactly as if it were one of your model
telepathic summons 2 or 3/ choose 2 or 3, conjuration create a single unit , 2 = 5 Acolyte or 5 Metamorphs or 10 Neophyte, 3 = 10 Acolyte or 10 Metamorphs or 20 Neophyte or 4 aberants or 8 genestealer, these model can be equipped with ANY UPGRADES list on their data sheet
Warlord trait
1. Steath
2. frdly unit of GSC have counter-attack with 12" of warlord
3. Move through cover, warlord and his unit never suffer penalty to I for charging through difficult terrain
4.It will not die
5. all model in your warlords detachment can use his LD
6.When using vult ambush with any unit he joined, do not roll on the ambush table, you can choose a result
relics
1.icon of the cult/ frdly unit within 12" of bearer have furious charge and can reroll failed Morale/pinning/feat test, model in same unit of bearer +1 A
2. dagger of swift sacrifice/ can instead make a single atk rolling to hit as normal S user Instant Death/Poisoned(2+)
3. Scourge of distat stars/ bearer involved in a challenge, their opponent must pas a T test before any attack are made, if fail that model suffer a wound with no save of any kind allowd and -1 I + Auntil the end of phase
4 staff of the subterran master / shooting attack 18" S2 AP- Assauly 10/Ignore cover/Rending
5 Sword of the void's eye/ +1S AP3, reroll to hit and to wound of 1 and to wound of 6 has the instant death rule
6. the crouchling in CCB make additional 2 S4 AP- Rending attack, bearer can generate one additional psychic power at the start of game [/quote]
From Dakka, Kurt Angle2
From Kazatende (sorry if I spelt it wrong) on The Tyranid Hive.
From Tyranid607 on Dakka. Might be a repeat, can't remember if I put this down or not.
From Oldone on Dakka
On dakka from Caederes from BoLS video
More from Tyranid 607 on dakkadakka
From Dakkadakka.
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Sept 24
www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/255950638133255/ GW TV, writers of the GSC codex.
Phil Kelly background writer. Simon Grant, rules writer.
Now I am under the impression these are the people who did the GSC codex, but now I am wondering while watching the video, if they are just GW writers but didn't write the codex or rules but just giving their opinions.
Thank you Tomb for this.
*edit* Tyranid 607 has deleted his posts now. Was he serious, or did he say something he shouldn't have?
Pics at Lady's Atia website.
war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1181
war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1180
Sorry guys so many pics when I was away. Not feeling good, not having my laptop handy, can't update on all the pics that just came in. Links are on page 10 and 11 from other members of The Tyranid Hive. Thanks guys for posting them.
Found this interesting though. From Dakkadakka poster Tyranid607
Sept 23
Thank you TTH member Jemmindis. (hope I spelt your name correctly.) Pics from Dakka.
Sept 22
From Facebook.
From The Tyranid Hive. From poster Hopewell, Thank you very much.
Sept 21
From Natfka
natfka.blogspot.ca/2016/09/genestealer-cult-release-details.html
Sept 20
From Facebook
10:15pm
From Natfka natfka.blogspot.ca/2016/09/the-return-of-limo-genestealer-cult.html
Here is the latest bit of early intel from Squiggly!
Huge thanks for chiming in Squiggly..... Someone mentioned beer? The Genestealer Cult codex is up for pre-orders this weekend, and we got the first hint of something cool coming with it...... "The Limo".
via Squiggly on Faeit 212
Not really much too say tbh, the codex is made up of the things you saw in Overkill plus some new stuff like the "Limo."
5:46pm
From Lady Atia's site, in the comments section.
2:15pm
Edit: Also more infos regarding the Codex details via Grot Orderly
"Lots of background, full army list (well duh!) but with Astra Militarum - converstion gallore commence!
The Cults will get their own six objectives (available to buy as well), 8 new formations, looted wargear. On top of that they will get Broodmind Discipline (Hivemind equivalent?) and psychic powers, seven of them.
Painting tutorials as well on schemes and iconography."
grotorderly.blogspot.co.at/2016/09/genestealer-cult-incoming.html
1pmish
From 40K Facebook.
The day of reckoning draws near.
Find out more this weekend.
*edit* Should add take these as rumours, not facts yet. Normal salt applications should be applied.
From Dakkadakka.
From Dakkadakka few threads down from Lady Atia
So it looks like it's a multi week release for GSC. 2,3 or 4 week release? No idea yet. Time will tell.
*edit*
From Lady Atia web site. war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1169
In the comment section from Redfox.
CODEX GENESTEALERS CULT
- 104 pages
- background about various Genestealer Cults across the Imperium
- full army list with rules for all units including elements from the Astra Militarum.
- 6 new Tactical Objectives
- 8 new Formations
- new wargear
- new psychic school "Broodmind" (7 new powers)
- Uniform Guide that shows colors and uniforms of a selection of cults.
From Lady Atia. Forge World GSC allies.
Sept 27
On Dakka from Orlandothetechnicolour
Sept 26
From Shadowfinder on The Tyranid Hive here. Thanks for the help.
This may help davor if you like. Unit formation size.
Brood Cycle
/ 1 Iconward
/ 3 units of Acolyte
/ 2 units of Neophyte
/ 1 unit of Metamorphs
/ 1 unit of genestealer
/ 0-1 units of Aberrants
/ 0-1 units of Rockgrinders
Neophyte Cavalcade
/ 2 unit of Neophyte
/ 1 Leman Russ Squadron
/ 1-2 unit of in any combination Scount Sentinels/Armoured Sentinels
The Doting Throng
/ 0-1 Magus
/ 3-6 units of in any combination Neophyte/Acolyte
Subterranean uprising
/ 0-1 Primus
/ 1-3 units of Metamorphs
/ 2-4 unist of Acolyte
/ 0-3 units of Aberrants
Demolition Claw
/ 2-3 units of Acolyte
/ 2-3 units of Rockgrinders
Deliverance Broodsurge
/ 2-6 units of Neophyte
Shadow Skulkers
/ 1 units of Genestealers
Cult Mutants
/ 1 units of Aberrants or Metamorphs
Brood Brothers
/ 1 unit of Scount or Armoured Sentinels or 1 Leman Russ Squadron
Read more: thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51635/genestealer-cult-stealer-data-slate?page=24#ixzz4LQ0S2gtL
Brood Cycle
/ 1 Iconward
/ 3 units of Acolyte
/ 2 units of Neophyte
/ 1 unit of Metamorphs
/ 1 unit of genestealer
/ 0-1 units of Aberrants
/ 0-1 units of Rockgrinders
Neophyte Cavalcade
/ 2 unit of Neophyte
/ 1 Leman Russ Squadron
/ 1-2 unit of in any combination Scount Sentinels/Armoured Sentinels
The Doting Throng
/ 0-1 Magus
/ 3-6 units of in any combination Neophyte/Acolyte
Subterranean uprising
/ 0-1 Primus
/ 1-3 units of Metamorphs
/ 2-4 unist of Acolyte
/ 0-3 units of Aberrants
Demolition Claw
/ 2-3 units of Acolyte
/ 2-3 units of Rockgrinders
Deliverance Broodsurge
/ 2-6 units of Neophyte
Shadow Skulkers
/ 1 units of Genestealers
Cult Mutants
/ 1 units of Aberrants or Metamorphs
Brood Brothers
/ 1 unit of Scount or Armoured Sentinels or 1 Leman Russ Squadron
Read more: thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51635/genestealer-cult-stealer-data-slate?page=24#ixzz4LQ0S2gtL
Again from Tyrandi607 on Dakka
From Tyranid607 on Dakka. Stealer dataslate
More from Tyranid607 from Dakka.
shadowfinder wrote:
Did we get the doting throng formation?? I may have missed that one.
gain Zealot whilist 12" of magus
reroll failed hit roll of every round of close combat not just first by the unit magus join
can reroll fail blessing to unit in this formation
Automatically Appended Next Post:
cultist1428 wrote:
Have we had any info on the stats/points/special rules/options of the Primus yet? From the armoury page it looks like he has 3 wounds which would be an improvement.
75pts
WS5 BS4 S4 T3 W3 I4 A3 LD10 Sv5+
Wargear
/needle pistol
/bonesword
/rending claws
/toxin injector
Special Rules
/Cult Ambush
/Hatred
/IC
/infiltrate
/Return to Shadows
/Unquestioning Loyalty
Frdly units of GSC faction within 12" of this model have Hatred Special
More frome Shadowfinder. Thank you very much keeping me update when I was out.
New rules
All metamorph weapons are AP 5 and each weapon has a rule:
Claw = Crush: A model equiped with a metamorph claw has a +2 bonus to its strength during the fight sub-phase
Talon = Scythe: A model equiped with a metamorph talon has a +1 bonus to its WS during the fight sub-phase. A model equiped with two metamorph talons has a +2bonus to its WS during the fight sub-phase instead.
Whip = Lash: A model equiped with a weapon with this special rule has a +3 bonus to its initiative during the fight sub-phase.
From this it looks like they combine with rending claws
Read more: thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51635/genestealer-cult-pics-tell-yori?page=21#ixzz4LOvHe1RJ
All metamorph weapons are AP 5 and each weapon has a rule:
Claw = Crush: A model equiped with a metamorph claw has a +2 bonus to its strength during the fight sub-phase
Talon = Scythe: A model equiped with a metamorph talon has a +1 bonus to its WS during the fight sub-phase. A model equiped with two metamorph talons has a +2bonus to its WS during the fight sub-phase instead.
Whip = Lash: A model equiped with a weapon with this special rule has a +3 bonus to its initiative during the fight sub-phase.
From this it looks like they combine with rending claws
Read more: thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51635/genestealer-cult-pics-tell-yori?page=21#ixzz4LOvHe1RJ
New rules
Demolition Claw
/Tank Hunter
/ can re-roll scatter dice of demolition charge or a cache of demolition
/Roll a dice each time a model throws a demolition charge whilist it is within 6" of a Goliath Rockgrinder from the same formation; on 4 or more that model replenishes its explosives and can throw another demolition charge during the battle
No special rule for Shadow Walker and Cult Mutants
Broodcoven
/3 modle of a broodcoven must be deployed as a single unit. They can still join frdly units, but if one does so, all other broodcoven models must join the same unit, same if they leave
/the broodcoven unit and any unit they join have the following special rules whist the relevent model from this formation is still alive: Patrarh: fleet / Magus: Counter-attack / Primus : Preferred Enemy
Read more: thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51635/genestealer-cult-pics-tell-yori?page=21#ixzz4LOvaZLRB
Demolition Claw
/Tank Hunter
/ can re-roll scatter dice of demolition charge or a cache of demolition
/Roll a dice each time a model throws a demolition charge whilist it is within 6" of a Goliath Rockgrinder from the same formation; on 4 or more that model replenishes its explosives and can throw another demolition charge during the battle
No special rule for Shadow Walker and Cult Mutants
Broodcoven
/3 modle of a broodcoven must be deployed as a single unit. They can still join frdly units, but if one does so, all other broodcoven models must join the same unit, same if they leave
/the broodcoven unit and any unit they join have the following special rules whist the relevent model from this formation is still alive: Patrarh: fleet / Magus: Counter-attack / Primus : Preferred Enemy
Read more: thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51635/genestealer-cult-pics-tell-yori?page=21#ixzz4LOvaZLRB
From Shadowfinder here on The Tyranid Hive.
Just in from a guy on Dakka .
Brood cycle
Any non-vehicle unit in this formation that is within 6" of at least one other unit from the same formation +1 to Leadership and WS
All unit in this formation have the furious charge while they are within 24" of Iconward. in addition, the range of inconward's Nexus of Devotion will effect 24" instead of 12" (6+ feel no pain and +1 if already had)
subterranean uprising
All unit in this formation must infiltrate during deployment and setup using Cult ambush rule. when rolling the table, roll 2 dice instead of 1 and choose either of the result
If a unit in this formation has been joined by a Primus, you can roll 3 dice and select any of the result
Read more: thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51635/genestealer-cult-pics-tell-yori#ixzz4LOGQUkEB
Brood cycle
Any non-vehicle unit in this formation that is within 6" of at least one other unit from the same formation +1 to Leadership and WS
All unit in this formation have the furious charge while they are within 24" of Iconward. in addition, the range of inconward's Nexus of Devotion will effect 24" instead of 12" (6+ feel no pain and +1 if already had)
subterranean uprising
All unit in this formation must infiltrate during deployment and setup using Cult ambush rule. when rolling the table, roll 2 dice instead of 1 and choose either of the result
If a unit in this formation has been joined by a Primus, you can roll 3 dice and select any of the result
Read more: thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51635/genestealer-cult-pics-tell-yori#ixzz4LOGQUkEB
*edit* Took pics out just in case it's a no no. If Yori says they are ok, I will put them back.
More from Tyrnaid607 on Dakka
metamorphs default come with rending claws and metamorph talon which bascially +1WS
and can replace rending claws and metamorph talon with 2 metamorph talons = +2WS for free
or replace metamorph talon to replace metamorph claws = +2S for 2pts
or replace metamorph talon to replace metamorph whip = +3I for 2pts
leader can take bonesword for 20pts
and can replace rending claws and metamorph talon with 2 metamorph talons = +2WS for free
or replace metamorph talon to replace metamorph claws = +2S for 2pts
or replace metamorph talon to replace metamorph whip = +3I for 2pts
leader can take bonesword for 20pts
Found the Bells of Lost Souls video for the Genestealer Cult codex. www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPYmDuJtnLA
Please Yori tell me if these pics are ok to post or not.
From Dakka, Tyranid607
broodmind
primars power warp charge 1/ malediction single unit within 24" reduce WS/BS/I/A by 1 to a min of 1
psychic stimulus warp charge 1/ blessing frdly unit not in combat gain relentless and fleet, can charge even ran in shooting phase
psionic blast 1/ witchfire 24" S5 Ap3 Assult 1 Blast
Might from beyond 1/ blessing a frdly unit 24" +1S and gain rage
mental onslaught 2/ focussed witchfire 24" both Psyker and target model roll a dice + LDS, if drawn target model -3I until next turn. if Psyker is higher, target suffer wound equal to the difference and no armor and cover saves are allowed
mind control 2/ focussed witchfire targets a single non-vehicle unit not lock in combat and makes shooting attack exactly as if it were one of your model
telepathic summons 2 or 3/ choose 2 or 3, conjuration create a single unit , 2 = 5 Acolyte or 5 Metamorphs or 10 Neophyte, 3 = 10 Acolyte or 10 Metamorphs or 20 Neophyte or 4 aberants or 8 genestealer, these model can be equipped with ANY UPGRADES list on their data sheet
Warlord trait
1. Steath
2. frdly unit of GSC have counter-attack with 12" of warlord
3. Move through cover, warlord and his unit never suffer penalty to I for charging through difficult terrain
4.It will not die
5. all model in your warlords detachment can use his LD
6.When using vult ambush with any unit he joined, do not roll on the ambush table, you can choose a result
relics
1.icon of the cult/ frdly unit within 12" of bearer have furious charge and can reroll failed Morale/pinning/feat test, model in same unit of bearer +1 A
2. dagger of swift sacrifice/ can instead make a single atk rolling to hit as normal S user Instant Death/Poisoned(2+)
3. Scourge of distat stars/ bearer involved in a challenge, their opponent must pas a T test before any attack are made, if fail that model suffer a wound with no save of any kind allowd and -1 I + Auntil the end of phase
4 staff of the subterran master / shooting attack 18" S2 AP- Assauly 10/Ignore cover/Rending
5 Sword of the void's eye/ +1S AP3, reroll to hit and to wound of 1 and to wound of 6 has the instant death rule
6. the crouchling in CCB make additional 2 S4 AP- Rending attack, bearer can generate one additional psychic power at the start of game [/quote]
From Dakka, Kurt Angle2
These are the relics:
Icon of the Cult Ascendant
Friendly units that have the Genestealer Cult Faction and are withing 12" of a model equipped with the Icon of the Cult Ascendant have the Furious Charge special rule and can re-roll failed Morale, Pinning and Fear tests. In addition, models in the same unit as the Icon of the Cult Ascendant have +1 whilst the bearer is alive
Dagger of Swift Sacrifice
Strenght User, AP -, Melee, Istant Death, Poisoned 2+
Scourge of Distant Stars
Whilst in a challenge with the bearer, the opponent must first make a Toughness test. If the opponent does not pass such test, he immediately takes a Wound with any kind of save allowed and gets his Attacks and Initiative characteristics reduced by 1 (to a minimum of 1) until the end of the Fight subphase-
Staff of the Subterrenean Master
Range 18", Strenght 2, AP -, Assault 10, Ignores Cover, Rending
Sword of the Void's Eye
Strenght +1, AP 3, Melee, Bio-sentience (Reroll failed To Hit and To Wound rolls of 1), Life Drain (Istant Death on a To Wound roll of 6)
The Crouchling
Adds another +2 Strenght 4, AP -, Rending melee attacks (perhaps stackable with both the 2 familiars you can take for every character) and gives you another ADDITIONAL (so only Patriarch and Magus) Psychic power at the start of the game
Icon of the Cult Ascendant
Friendly units that have the Genestealer Cult Faction and are withing 12" of a model equipped with the Icon of the Cult Ascendant have the Furious Charge special rule and can re-roll failed Morale, Pinning and Fear tests. In addition, models in the same unit as the Icon of the Cult Ascendant have +1 whilst the bearer is alive
Dagger of Swift Sacrifice
Strenght User, AP -, Melee, Istant Death, Poisoned 2+
Scourge of Distant Stars
Whilst in a challenge with the bearer, the opponent must first make a Toughness test. If the opponent does not pass such test, he immediately takes a Wound with any kind of save allowed and gets his Attacks and Initiative characteristics reduced by 1 (to a minimum of 1) until the end of the Fight subphase-
Staff of the Subterrenean Master
Range 18", Strenght 2, AP -, Assault 10, Ignores Cover, Rending
Sword of the Void's Eye
Strenght +1, AP 3, Melee, Bio-sentience (Reroll failed To Hit and To Wound rolls of 1), Life Drain (Istant Death on a To Wound roll of 6)
The Crouchling
Adds another +2 Strenght 4, AP -, Rending melee attacks (perhaps stackable with both the 2 familiars you can take for every character) and gives you another ADDITIONAL (so only Patriarch and Magus) Psychic power at the start of the game
From Kazatende (sorry if I spelt it wrong) on The Tyranid Hive.
A bit of info from a phonecall, the guy was pouring over the codex a few hours ago:
We have a fomation that lets us roll multiple dice for cult ambush rule. If boss (assume patriarch) is in is 3 dice otherwise 2 dice pick which you want.
IC with 12" 6+ feel no pain banner, if you have fnp already its a +1 to fnp. Endurance from the bio psychic tree is available - assume BRB access.
Everything, or almost everything other than vehicles have cult ambush.
I wasn't sure what else to ask and I was pretty happy knowing psychic battery Nids could create a viable list. Rest of it I'll be waiting for codex release to study.
Read more: thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51598/gsc-rumors-bols-new-pics?page=31#ixzz4LNlUdvIl
We have a fomation that lets us roll multiple dice for cult ambush rule. If boss (assume patriarch) is in is 3 dice otherwise 2 dice pick which you want.
IC with 12" 6+ feel no pain banner, if you have fnp already its a +1 to fnp. Endurance from the bio psychic tree is available - assume BRB access.
Everything, or almost everything other than vehicles have cult ambush.
I wasn't sure what else to ask and I was pretty happy knowing psychic battery Nids could create a viable list. Rest of it I'll be waiting for codex release to study.
Read more: thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51598/gsc-rumors-bols-new-pics?page=31#ixzz4LNlUdvIl
From Tyranid607 on Dakka. Might be a repeat, can't remember if I put this down or not.
1. goliath rockgrrinder default come with heavy stubber + heavy mining laser + drilldozer blade, can replace mining laser with clearance incinerator or heavy seismic cannon
Heavy mining laser 36" S9 AP2 Heavy 1
Heavy seismic 0-12" S8 AP3 Heavy 2 / 12-24" S5 AP4 Heavy 6, with special rule To wound roll or APen roll of 6 always resolved at AP1
drilldozer blade is very interesting to me, it auto pass dangerous terrain test + RAMS enemy vehicle add an extra D6 to S to hit, if cause pen hit add 1 to result of damage table and when performs a tank shock, each enemys the vehicle reach must take a intiative test before taking a morale check. if int test is passed, the unit avoid the cutter but if fail, the enemy suffer D3 S10 Ap2 hit. if enemy unit make a death or glory attack on drilldozer vehicle and fail to stop it, the unit suffer an additional D3 S10 AP2 hit
2. all hybrid and genestealer can do cult ambush and return to shadows, no detechments is needed
3. Iconward other then the sacred relics it can choose to carry
the banner give freindly unit of generstealer faction within 12" gain furious charge and feel no pain(6+) if model already have feel no pain then 1+ to it
4.the stat of Metamorphs and Acolyte Hybrid is very similar, one can take heavy rock cutter/drill/saw, which is basically power fist with special ability, the other one is +2S in sub fight or +3I or +2 ws depends on what it is carrying
Heavy mining laser 36" S9 AP2 Heavy 1
Heavy seismic 0-12" S8 AP3 Heavy 2 / 12-24" S5 AP4 Heavy 6, with special rule To wound roll or APen roll of 6 always resolved at AP1
drilldozer blade is very interesting to me, it auto pass dangerous terrain test + RAMS enemy vehicle add an extra D6 to S to hit, if cause pen hit add 1 to result of damage table and when performs a tank shock, each enemys the vehicle reach must take a intiative test before taking a morale check. if int test is passed, the unit avoid the cutter but if fail, the enemy suffer D3 S10 Ap2 hit. if enemy unit make a death or glory attack on drilldozer vehicle and fail to stop it, the unit suffer an additional D3 S10 AP2 hit
2. all hybrid and genestealer can do cult ambush and return to shadows, no detechments is needed
3. Iconward other then the sacred relics it can choose to carry
the banner give freindly unit of generstealer faction within 12" gain furious charge and feel no pain(6+) if model already have feel no pain then 1+ to it
4.the stat of Metamorphs and Acolyte Hybrid is very similar, one can take heavy rock cutter/drill/saw, which is basically power fist with special ability, the other one is +2S in sub fight or +3I or +2 ws depends on what it is carrying
From Oldone on Dakka
so reading that blurry pic from bols vid, relics are:
dagger of swift sacrifice
staff of subterranean mastery
icon of cult ascension
sword of v**** eye
c****
scourge of D**** stars?
Also our psykers have access to biomancy(sp?) telepathy and broodmind but start level one and can only buy to level 2
dagger of swift sacrifice
staff of subterranean mastery
icon of cult ascension
sword of v**** eye
c****
scourge of D**** stars?
Also our psykers have access to biomancy(sp?) telepathy and broodmind but start level one and can only buy to level 2
On dakka from Caederes from BoLS video
Watching that video BoLS posted up...we got full rules now! I'll do a summary for anyone that is anti-BoLS or doesn't have the time to watch it.
Their super-detachment is as normal, 1-6 Core, 1+ Auxiliary, 0-3(?) Command. You can't have more than one Patriarch, Magus and Primus in the Cult Insurrection detachment (super detachment) which is a bummer. Patriarch gets a codex warlord trait re-roll, all non-vehicle units gets Infiltrate, if they already have Infiltrate then they get Shrouded for the first game turn, you add 1 to reserve rolls and enemies subtract 1 from reserve rolls. All units that arrive from ongoing reserves gain D6 models back that were killed earlier in the game.
The two Core formations are very different; one has most of the units in the codex, the other is Neophyte Hybrids and the IG tanks - mandatory Leman Russ squadron and Sentinel squadrons.
THE STATS FOR THE MODELS HAVE CHANGED SINCE DEATHWATCH OVERKILL!
The Patriarch is now 90 points but is Strength 6, starts off as a ML1 psyker but can buy ML2, can buy two Familiars on the cheap and gets access to Biomancy, Broodmind and Telepathy. He also confers Fearless to all friendly Genestealer Cult units within 12". Yikes!
The Magus is 40, comes with Adamantium Will and Infiltrate now, is ML1 base but can pay for ML2 and gets the same disciplines as the Patriarch, he also gives Adamantium Will to all Genestealer Cult units within 12". Yikesx2!
Chimera and Sentinel data-shoots look identical to the Astra Militarum versions, still BS3.
Goliath rules confirmed per Tyranid607, the normal Goliath is an open-topped transport!
The First Curse formation does the following; 1 Patriarch, 1 Purestrain Genestealer unit, you roll a D6 before the start of the game and add the result to the Purestrain Genestealers for the whole game; 1: they get assault grenades, 2: they get 4+ armor, 3: they get Poisoned melee attacks, 4: they get Rage, 5: they get Preferred Enemy, 6: you pick which one you want.
That small Core formation I mentioned earlier with the Neophytes and IG tanks does the following; Neophytes have to take Chimeras as DTs, all vehicles get Outflank and the Scout Sentinels get Cult Ambush (this works with that restore D6 models rule in the Cult Insurrection detachment???), ignores stunned and shaken on a 4+.
They also show the profiles at the back (meaning stats only) here's what we got;
Acolyte Iconward; basically a Primus but only 2 wounds and LD9. Primus; now has WS5 and 3 Wounds. The stats for Acolytes and Neophytes remain the same, they now have unit leaders with +1 Leadership and Attacks. Weapon Teams for Neophytes are in and are the same as IG except for +1 Initiative and LD just like the actual Neophytes. Metamorphs look to have the same stats as Acolyte Hybrids but are Elites, presumably they will have extra special rules and nastier weapons. Purestrain Genestealers look to have 3 attacks base now but are otherwise the same.
The weapons list confirms that the Leman Russ variants in the standard Leman Russ kit are the only ones available. The Clearance Incinerator is a S5 AP4 Torrent Template weapon. The Heavy Mining Laser is just a Mining Laser with 36" range. The Heavy Seismic Cannon is either Heavy 3(or 2?) and S8 AP3 at 0-12", or S5(?) AP4 Heavy 6 at 12-24", and both have the "Resonance" or something akin to that special rule. Normal Seismic Cannon is the same, just with one less shot in the first profile and two less shots in the second profile. The Webber weapons fire blasts and are S3 (pistol) and S4 (rifle), they also have some over special rule that looks to be different to the one the Seismic Cannons have. The Rock Cutter, Rock Drill and Rock Saw are all basically power fists, the cutter has some special rule I can't make out (maybe Shred?), the drill has "Pulverize", the saw has Armorbane, all of them are two-handed. Metamorph weapons now, they are all S: user but have different special rules, it looks like at least one of them is AP3 and their special rules seem to be unique/new. There's also something called a Power xxx or something that is Unwieldy, Two Handed, AP2, I can't make out the strength and has a few special rules.
Their super-detachment is as normal, 1-6 Core, 1+ Auxiliary, 0-3(?) Command. You can't have more than one Patriarch, Magus and Primus in the Cult Insurrection detachment (super detachment) which is a bummer. Patriarch gets a codex warlord trait re-roll, all non-vehicle units gets Infiltrate, if they already have Infiltrate then they get Shrouded for the first game turn, you add 1 to reserve rolls and enemies subtract 1 from reserve rolls. All units that arrive from ongoing reserves gain D6 models back that were killed earlier in the game.
The two Core formations are very different; one has most of the units in the codex, the other is Neophyte Hybrids and the IG tanks - mandatory Leman Russ squadron and Sentinel squadrons.
THE STATS FOR THE MODELS HAVE CHANGED SINCE DEATHWATCH OVERKILL!
The Patriarch is now 90 points but is Strength 6, starts off as a ML1 psyker but can buy ML2, can buy two Familiars on the cheap and gets access to Biomancy, Broodmind and Telepathy. He also confers Fearless to all friendly Genestealer Cult units within 12". Yikes!
The Magus is 40, comes with Adamantium Will and Infiltrate now, is ML1 base but can pay for ML2 and gets the same disciplines as the Patriarch, he also gives Adamantium Will to all Genestealer Cult units within 12". Yikesx2!
Chimera and Sentinel data-shoots look identical to the Astra Militarum versions, still BS3.
Goliath rules confirmed per Tyranid607, the normal Goliath is an open-topped transport!
The First Curse formation does the following; 1 Patriarch, 1 Purestrain Genestealer unit, you roll a D6 before the start of the game and add the result to the Purestrain Genestealers for the whole game; 1: they get assault grenades, 2: they get 4+ armor, 3: they get Poisoned melee attacks, 4: they get Rage, 5: they get Preferred Enemy, 6: you pick which one you want.
That small Core formation I mentioned earlier with the Neophytes and IG tanks does the following; Neophytes have to take Chimeras as DTs, all vehicles get Outflank and the Scout Sentinels get Cult Ambush (this works with that restore D6 models rule in the Cult Insurrection detachment???), ignores stunned and shaken on a 4+.
They also show the profiles at the back (meaning stats only) here's what we got;
Acolyte Iconward; basically a Primus but only 2 wounds and LD9. Primus; now has WS5 and 3 Wounds. The stats for Acolytes and Neophytes remain the same, they now have unit leaders with +1 Leadership and Attacks. Weapon Teams for Neophytes are in and are the same as IG except for +1 Initiative and LD just like the actual Neophytes. Metamorphs look to have the same stats as Acolyte Hybrids but are Elites, presumably they will have extra special rules and nastier weapons. Purestrain Genestealers look to have 3 attacks base now but are otherwise the same.
The weapons list confirms that the Leman Russ variants in the standard Leman Russ kit are the only ones available. The Clearance Incinerator is a S5 AP4 Torrent Template weapon. The Heavy Mining Laser is just a Mining Laser with 36" range. The Heavy Seismic Cannon is either Heavy 3(or 2?) and S8 AP3 at 0-12", or S5(?) AP4 Heavy 6 at 12-24", and both have the "Resonance" or something akin to that special rule. Normal Seismic Cannon is the same, just with one less shot in the first profile and two less shots in the second profile. The Webber weapons fire blasts and are S3 (pistol) and S4 (rifle), they also have some over special rule that looks to be different to the one the Seismic Cannons have. The Rock Cutter, Rock Drill and Rock Saw are all basically power fists, the cutter has some special rule I can't make out (maybe Shred?), the drill has "Pulverize", the saw has Armorbane, all of them are two-handed. Metamorph weapons now, they are all S: user but have different special rules, it looks like at least one of them is AP3 and their special rules seem to be unique/new. There's also something called a Power xxx or something that is Unwieldy, Two Handed, AP2, I can't make out the strength and has a few special rules.
More from Tyranid 607 on dakkadakka
Goliath Truck/50pts
BS3 11/10/10 hp3 open-topped/transport 10 models no genestealer or patriarch
With heavy stubber + twinlinked autocannon
Special rule/ rugged construction / 4+ to ignore crew stunned shaken or immobilised but still lose hp
Option/ a cache of demolition charge 20pts/ 1 model can choose to throw one instead of firing its normal weapon 6" S8 AP2 assault 1 , large blast
BS3 11/10/10 hp3 open-topped/transport 10 models no genestealer or patriarch
With heavy stubber + twinlinked autocannon
Special rule/ rugged construction / 4+ to ignore crew stunned shaken or immobilised but still lose hp
Option/ a cache of demolition charge 20pts/ 1 model can choose to throw one instead of firing its normal weapon 6" S8 AP2 assault 1 , large blast
Appendix/
Cult ambush
Instead of arriving from reserves normally, unit can roll the ambush table D6
1/ your own table edge
2/ roll d6 1-2 left 3-4 right 5-6 you choose
3/ anywhere more 9" from enemy or 6" from enemy which have no los
4/ 6"
5/ 6" + bouns shooting or run
6/ 3" + charge on the turn arrive
Return the Shadows
Instead of moving in movement phase, unit have this rule and not within 6" of enemy models can be removed from battlefield and placed into ongoing reserve. Unit can't use this rule arrive from reserve or ongoing reserve and can't do so when in vehicle
Genestealer/aberrants/Metamorphs/neophyte/acolyte/ and all HQ
Cult ambush
Instead of arriving from reserves normally, unit can roll the ambush table D6
1/ your own table edge
2/ roll d6 1-2 left 3-4 right 5-6 you choose
3/ anywhere more 9" from enemy or 6" from enemy which have no los
4/ 6"
5/ 6" + bouns shooting or run
6/ 3" + charge on the turn arrive
Return the Shadows
Instead of moving in movement phase, unit have this rule and not within 6" of enemy models can be removed from battlefield and placed into ongoing reserve. Unit can't use this rule arrive from reserve or ongoing reserve and can't do so when in vehicle
Genestealer/aberrants/Metamorphs/neophyte/acolyte/ and all HQ
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Sept 24
www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/255950638133255/ GW TV, writers of the GSC codex.
Phil Kelly background writer. Simon Grant, rules writer.
Now I am under the impression these are the people who did the GSC codex, but now I am wondering while watching the video, if they are just GW writers but didn't write the codex or rules but just giving their opinions.
Thank you Tomb for this.
*edit* Tyranid 607 has deleted his posts now. Was he serious, or did he say something he shouldn't have?
Also from the same poster regarding a quick glimpse at the codex:
Just a quick look at it
I think it is sentinel , Leman Russ Demolisher and another walker like sentinel
The mining tank(can't remember the name) is a tranport asssult tank , get something like tank shock attack at the front side
Web gun resolves it ap base on the target S (e.g. Space Marie at S4 = AP4)
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Purestrain Genestealer is WS6 S4 I6 with claw better than rending claw and can go into ongoing reserve at movement phase
Read more: thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51635/genestealer-cult-prices-sept-24?page=12#ixzz4LBbxBiNG
Just a quick look at it
I think it is sentinel , Leman Russ Demolisher and another walker like sentinel
The mining tank(can't remember the name) is a tranport asssult tank , get something like tank shock attack at the front side
Web gun resolves it ap base on the target S (e.g. Space Marie at S4 = AP4)
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Purestrain Genestealer is WS6 S4 I6 with claw better than rending claw and can go into ongoing reserve at movement phase
Read more: thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51635/genestealer-cult-prices-sept-24?page=12#ixzz4LBbxBiNG
Pics at Lady's Atia website.
war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1181
war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1180
Sorry guys so many pics when I was away. Not feeling good, not having my laptop handy, can't update on all the pics that just came in. Links are on page 10 and 11 from other members of The Tyranid Hive. Thanks guys for posting them.
Found this interesting though. From Dakkadakka poster Tyranid607
Just have a chance to look into the codex, other than the 3 units in pre-order, there is a new tank(yes the mining tank) releasing next week . You get a few IG tanks and walker in the codex. And all other unit is all in the overwatch boxset( lack of upgrade parts)
The purestrain genestealer is better than what you get in nids dex.
And it will be kind expensive to build up a 1500pts army as most of them are only 6-13pts(can't remember), only the aberrants cost 30pts each
The purestrain genestealer is better than what you get in nids dex.
And it will be kind expensive to build up a 1500pts army as most of them are only 6-13pts(can't remember), only the aberrants cost 30pts each
Sept 23
Thank you TTH member Jemmindis. (hope I spelt your name correctly.) Pics from Dakka.
Sept 22
From Facebook.
From The Tyranid Hive. From poster Hopewell, Thank you very much.
Just seen this week's retail brief to UK stores; Not included in the rumours I've seen thus far are the addition of a Cult Icon in the Neophytes, which seems to resemble a standard bearer. Seismic cannon looks interesting, grav anyone?
Read more: thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51598/gsc-rumors-bols?page=20#ixzz4Kz1fA1re
Read more: thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/51598/gsc-rumors-bols?page=20#ixzz4Kz1fA1re
Sept 21
From Natfka
natfka.blogspot.ca/2016/09/genestealer-cult-release-details.html
We have heard a couple of legit rumors about what is going to be in the new codex, including a "limo" of some type, and that some Astra Militarum entries will be accessible to the new Genestealer codex.
Now we have the details for this week's pre-orders...... check them out!
These are from great sources and answers several questions.... Including where the icon is on the new dice!
via anonymous sources on Faeit 212
Here are some Details regarding the Upcoming release:
Codex Genestealer Cults:
-Will have a new Psychic Discipline, "Broodmind" with 7 powers.
-8 New Formations
- 104 Pages, Including All datasheets for the previous Overkill releases as well as Wargear.
-50$
Genestealer Cult Acolyte Hybrids:
-5 Acolyte Hybrids with Autopistols, Close Combat Weapons, Blasting charges and Rending Claws
-Can also be built as Hybrid Metamorphs with autopistols, metamorph Talons, Blasting Charges and Reding Claws
-Options for a Acolythe or Metamorph Leader with 2 Special Heads that can be armed with a Bonesword
-optional Handflamers, 1 heavy rock saw, 1 heavy rock drill, 1 heavy rock cutter.
-40$
genestealer Cult Neophyte Hybrids:
-10 Neophytes with autoguns, autopistols and blasting charges.
-optional seismis cannon, heavy stubber or mining laser aswell as 10 shotguns
-options for a neophyte leader with various wargear.
-40$
Genestealer Cult Dice:
-20 Dice with Genestealer Cult icon on the 1.
-20$ Limited time only
Genestealer Cult Datacards:
-7 Psychic Powers of the Broodmind Discipline
- 36 Tactical Objectives
-13.50$
How to paint Genestealer Cults:
-32 Pages
-10$
Now we have the details for this week's pre-orders...... check them out!
These are from great sources and answers several questions.... Including where the icon is on the new dice!
via anonymous sources on Faeit 212
Here are some Details regarding the Upcoming release:
Codex Genestealer Cults:
-Will have a new Psychic Discipline, "Broodmind" with 7 powers.
-8 New Formations
- 104 Pages, Including All datasheets for the previous Overkill releases as well as Wargear.
-50$
Genestealer Cult Acolyte Hybrids:
-5 Acolyte Hybrids with Autopistols, Close Combat Weapons, Blasting charges and Rending Claws
-Can also be built as Hybrid Metamorphs with autopistols, metamorph Talons, Blasting Charges and Reding Claws
-Options for a Acolythe or Metamorph Leader with 2 Special Heads that can be armed with a Bonesword
-optional Handflamers, 1 heavy rock saw, 1 heavy rock drill, 1 heavy rock cutter.
-40$
genestealer Cult Neophyte Hybrids:
-10 Neophytes with autoguns, autopistols and blasting charges.
-optional seismis cannon, heavy stubber or mining laser aswell as 10 shotguns
-options for a neophyte leader with various wargear.
-40$
Genestealer Cult Dice:
-20 Dice with Genestealer Cult icon on the 1.
-20$ Limited time only
Genestealer Cult Datacards:
-7 Psychic Powers of the Broodmind Discipline
- 36 Tactical Objectives
-13.50$
How to paint Genestealer Cults:
-32 Pages
-10$
Sept 20
From Facebook
10:15pm
From Natfka natfka.blogspot.ca/2016/09/the-return-of-limo-genestealer-cult.html
Here is the latest bit of early intel from Squiggly!
Huge thanks for chiming in Squiggly..... Someone mentioned beer? The Genestealer Cult codex is up for pre-orders this weekend, and we got the first hint of something cool coming with it...... "The Limo".
via Squiggly on Faeit 212
Not really much too say tbh, the codex is made up of the things you saw in Overkill plus some new stuff like the "Limo."
5:46pm
From Lady Atia's site, in the comments section.
2:15pm
Edit: Also more infos regarding the Codex details via Grot Orderly
"Lots of background, full army list (well duh!) but with Astra Militarum - converstion gallore commence!
The Cults will get their own six objectives (available to buy as well), 8 new formations, looted wargear. On top of that they will get Broodmind Discipline (Hivemind equivalent?) and psychic powers, seven of them.
Painting tutorials as well on schemes and iconography."
grotorderly.blogspot.co.at/2016/09/genestealer-cult-incoming.html
1pmish
From 40K Facebook.
The day of reckoning draws near.
Find out more this weekend.
*edit* Should add take these as rumours, not facts yet. Normal salt applications should be applied.
From Dakkadakka.
From Grot orderly:
On 24th September we will get a 104 page codex for Genestealer Cults.
Lots of background, full army list (well duh!) but with Astra Militarum - converstion gallore commence!
The Cults will get their own six objectives (available to buy as well), 8 new formations, looted wargear. On top of that they will get Broodmind Discipline (Hivemind equivalent?) and psychic powers, seven of them.
Painting tutorials as well on schemes and iconography.
Of course there will be some miniature boxes as well - reboxed Overkill miniatures.
Prices below:
Codex: Genestealer Cult - 25GBP / 33EUR
Datacards: Genestealer Cult - 8GBP / 10.50EUR
Dice: Genestealer Cult - 12.50GBP / 16.50EUR
How To Paint: Genestealer Cult - 6GBP - 8EUR (digital?)
Genestealer Cult Acolyte Hybrids - 25GBP / 33EUR
Genestealer Cult Neophyte Hybrids - 25GBP / 33EUR
Get your wallets ready!
On 24th September we will get a 104 page codex for Genestealer Cults.
Lots of background, full army list (well duh!) but with Astra Militarum - converstion gallore commence!
The Cults will get their own six objectives (available to buy as well), 8 new formations, looted wargear. On top of that they will get Broodmind Discipline (Hivemind equivalent?) and psychic powers, seven of them.
Painting tutorials as well on schemes and iconography.
Of course there will be some miniature boxes as well - reboxed Overkill miniatures.
Prices below:
Codex: Genestealer Cult - 25GBP / 33EUR
Datacards: Genestealer Cult - 8GBP / 10.50EUR
Dice: Genestealer Cult - 12.50GBP / 16.50EUR
How To Paint: Genestealer Cult - 6GBP - 8EUR (digital?)
Genestealer Cult Acolyte Hybrids - 25GBP / 33EUR
Genestealer Cult Neophyte Hybrids - 25GBP / 33EUR
Get your wallets ready!
From Dakkadakka few threads down from Lady Atia
streetsamurai wrote:
Reboxed miniatures
What a shame
Afaik there is also new stuff, not just reboxes ....
Reboxed miniatures
What a shame
Afaik there is also new stuff, not just reboxes ....
So it looks like it's a multi week release for GSC. 2,3 or 4 week release? No idea yet. Time will tell.
*edit*
From Lady Atia web site. war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1169
In the comment section from Redfox.
CODEX GENESTEALERS CULT
- 104 pages
- background about various Genestealer Cults across the Imperium
- full army list with rules for all units including elements from the Astra Militarum.
- 6 new Tactical Objectives
- 8 new Formations
- new wargear
- new psychic school "Broodmind" (7 new powers)
- Uniform Guide that shows colors and uniforms of a selection of cults.