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Post by riotearp on Jan 12, 2018 10:16:32 GMT
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Post by niiai on Jan 14, 2018 23:16:42 GMT
On what page does 8th edition start? I found this thread confusing.
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Post by Hive Fleet Strigoi on Jan 16, 2018 14:21:30 GMT
Look for the one starting Nov of 2017 back one page. All prevoius posts were before the release of 8th.
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Post by riotearp on Apr 20, 2018 17:33:42 GMT
Oh hey i visit this forum sadly not all that frequently. Today i wanted to play an 1250 post faq list (kronos) against tzeench. I got one Flyrant with Reaper of Obliterax and 2 devourers, 2 dakkafexen 3 x ripper 1 exocrine 1 neurothrope and 4 hiveguards + the dimacheron., He played kairos, one herold on chariot, 3 x10 pinkies, 2 exaltet flamer and 8 normal flamer + 7 Screamer. I belive this are more points than 1250 pls korrekt me if i´m false. He got first round and i deny most of his psy stuff. He attacked my HT with it´s screamers and only did 4 wounds. In return i did nothing. in my phase the tryant flied out and smited and screamd some screamer. The Neurothrope also smitedsome screamers and the exocrine killed another three! I wanted to roll the shooting for one dakkafex on one squad of pink horrors but my opponent had to leave spontaneous. :/ I was realy upset as i would have had a good stand at this point. I would have deleted the horrorscrean and would be able to charge the exalted flamer behind with my dimachaeron but my opponent even had no time to finish my turn... Hate when this happens...
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Post by riotearp on Jul 20, 2018 11:38:45 GMT
Hello fellow Nid players. For a long time I have managed to play a game with my swarm again. I tried Hivefleet Kraken for the first time. I took one Broodlord one Neurotrophe, 3 x 20 Genes with talons and maws. 2x20 Gaunts 20 Hormies and 6 Hiveguards. My opponent fielded Chaos Renegades with some Tanks (as seen) some mutants and alot of conscriptslike footsoldiers and some HQ. The list pushed alot of the morale of the army. We played the eternal war mission where you score if you stand nearby an objektive but characters score prior. Implaced my Hiveguard in Cover and the swarm at the edge of my deploymentzone. I got first turn and ran with the genes and horms forward. I wanted to catch the renegadesquad nearby the flamertank with my hormagants to bind the tank in meele but they and two other genestealersquads failed their charge. :/ My Hiveguard shot at the punisher twice only to let him alive with 4 wounds. The genestealer on the right ran twice to charge the big blob of 50 mutants. Broodloord buffed the squad and after the second attack of the genes (fight twice stratagem and used talons) the mutants where wiped out. i scored first blood and 3 objektives. 4:0 In his turn he shot the genestealer squads with everything what he had left but was not able to kill a squad off. He Charged my hormagaunts and genestealers with troops but the losses where marginal and so no unit was whiped out. In return my almost unharmed genestealersquad on the left another squad of renegades where ripped apart. He scored two objektives. In my turn i finished the punisher and was able to bind the Hellhound and the demolisher russ in combat. My guants scored two objektive while a small genestealersquad scored the objektive in the middle. After the CC phase where i killed another two renegade squads of my opponent called the game as it was obvious that i whould overrun him in the next two turns. 7:2 Victory for the Swarm!
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Post by riotearp on Aug 2, 2018 18:05:00 GMT
Today i played my hivefleet as kraken again. This time i got my 12 Zoans + Neurothrope together to test the Stratagem psichic barrage. I fielded an Bataillon of One Broodlord Malanthrope 2x18 Stealer 24 Hormagaunts 1 x 3 Ripper One Vanguarddetechment of Neurothrope 3 x 4 Zoanthropes One Spearheaddetachment Old Oneeye 3 x Carnifex Enhanced Sense, Spore Cyst, Devorer and Crushing Claws My opponent got one Astra Militarum CP Battery with 2 commanders and 3 squads of guardsmen 1 x 3 Laserheavyweaponteam 2 Leman russ on of them as tank commander Space Wulves Lord With JP and TH SS Wolfpriest with SB 2 x 3 Thunderwulfcavalery 1 x 5 Wulfen 2 TH 1 axe 2 Claws 1 Longfangs 1x 10 Doogys We played Killpoints with malstrom I got first turn and ran everything forward. One unit of stealers ran twice with the stratagem. Neuros castet Psychic barrage on the left leman russ and thunderwolves. doing 8 damage on the tank commander and 8 damage on one guardsmensquad. Thunderwolves wherer unharmed despite one reroll. Devourers of the fexen killed some guardsmen. I then charged the cavalary and the heavy weapon of the guardsmensqad which i hurt badly. Wiping out one tw and the heavy weapon. in return i lost 5 stealers In Return he flew his bird filled with wulfen into my backfield shooting the genestealers and my neurothrope. It killed some stealers but the neuro was unharmed. in cc the other cavalarysquad charged my hormagaunts killing 10. I filled them with acid per stratagem but no one popped up. :/ In return i killed one thunderwulf and hurt one. The Wolflord came down in his DZ and charged my stealers wiping some out. other cavalary also killed some but they had 8 left at the end. In my turn i let down my rippers to occupy one mission objektive and ran with everything forward but the zoans which smited the bird but only managed to get 2 wounds of. oneeye charged the thunderwolves after they got thinned out by another carnifexens devourers killing the last wulf with his ram attack (3MW) The blue stealers left the fight and got into the next with the heavy weapon team. The broodlord charged the leman russ and the white stealers charged the lord and the twc. The stealers killed two twc leaving one left with one wound. Also the wulflord survived with one wound. (Forgott implant attack! damn!) The bluestealers killed the heavy weaponteam. The Broodlord killed then the Tank Commander with 3 Sixes to wound ^^. He ripped the tank appart and hitted the gastank as the tank blew up taking the last twc and the wolflord with him. Broodlord and Stealers also sufferd 2 mw each but nothing i´ve cared about. In his next round the wulven disembarked and the bird flew near my white stealersquad to thim him out. He killed 8 in the shootingphase. He killed 2 Blue Stealers with the seargent from the longfangsquad and killed with the rest another 7 Stealers with the fragrockets. The wulfen killed one clawfex and the malanthrope with pure anger, knowing what the swarm did to their brothers. In my turn i Smited the wulfen to dead with the zoans and the neurothrope. Neuro managed to get one supersmite and made also 6 mw my best result with supersmite so far ^^. Old oneey killed one guardsquad on his own only to consolidate into the last remaining lemon russ. Broodlord killed the company commander and the remaining stealers killed the longfangs. After that i was in the lead of more than double the points as my opponent and he only had 3 units left. He conceded and so the swarm began to absorb the remaining biomass Well so much zoans are hard to get rid of they tank alot and push these sweet mw out. The stratagem is gold if therer are enough units to roll a dice for. Also you can choose the spot and so your targets. Its also good to snipe out characters. Old oneye was beast as he generated so much attacs to wipe an guadsmensquad on his own. Stealers where fast and deadly but they die like flys even with fnp. The fexen did their jop. I´m not to sure about the claws but they never reached an transport so i will test them again as they get +2 to hit with old oneeye. Hope you enjoyed the bat rap and forgive my bad english
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Post by riotearp on May 5, 2019 9:15:07 GMT
Had my first 1750 Points tournament with gsc and it was quite frustrating. In my first game i beat death guard with plagbearerspam that was great no doubt. But then i faced an Deldar mixed army with venoms, Dark ekdar and ailtoc flyers. It was one of the worst matchups you can get with the gsc. After that i faced a tau list with one riptide and 6 broadsides with missliles. I managed to care about the riptide after 3 rounds of menthal onslaught but i could not break that broadside castle. In my dersparation i charged my acolytebomb of 20 in his droneshields and he deleted the unit on overwatch. I think those two shooty armies are our worst missmatches. Do you have tips to beat em? + Battalion Detachment +5CP (Tyranids - Genestealer Cults) [27 PL, -4CP, 483pts] +++ No Force Org Slot [-3CP] +
Cult Creed: Cult of the Four-Armed Emperor
Specialist Detachment: Deliverance Broodsurge [-1CP]
Stratagem: Broodcoven [-1CP]
Stratagem: Grandsire's Gifts [-1CP]: 1 Extra Sacred Relic [-1CP]
+ HQ [7 PL, -1CP, 133pts] +
Acolyte Iconward [3 PL, -1CP, 53pts]: Icon of the Cult Ascendant, Stratagem: Field Commander [-1CP], Warlord Trait: Augur of the Insurgent
Magus [4 PL, 80pts]: Broodcoven Magus, Power: Mass Hypnosis, Power: Mind Control, Warlord Trait: Inscrutable Cunning
+ Troops [17 PL, 295pts] +
Acolyte Hybrids [11 PL, 225pts]: Cult Icon [10pts]. 11x Acolyte Hybrid [77pts]. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon) [17pts]: Autopistol, Heavy Rock Saw [10pts]. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon) [17pts]: Autopistol, Heavy Rock Saw [10pts]. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon) [17pts]: Autopistol, Heavy Rock Saw [10pts]. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon) [17pts]: Autopistol, Heavy Rock Saw [10pts]. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon) [17pts]: Autopistol, Heavy Rock Saw [10pts]. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon) [17pts]: Autopistol, Heavy Rock Saw [10pts]. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon) [17pts]: Autopistol, Heavy Rock Saw [10pts]. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon) [12pts]: Autopistol, Demolition Charge [5pts]. Acolyte Leader [7pts]: Autopistol, Cultist Knife
Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 35pts]: 4x Acolyte Hybrid [28pts]. Acolyte Leader [7pts]: Autopistol, Cultist Knife
Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 35pts]: 4x Acolyte Hybrid [28pts]. Acolyte Leader [7pts]: Autopistol, Cultist Knife
+ Elites [3 PL, 55pts] +
Clamavus [3 PL, 55pts]
++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Tyranids - Genestealer Cults) [82 PL, -2CP, 1267pts] ++
+ No Force Org Slot [-1CP] +Cult Creed: None (Mixed Detachment)Specialist Detachment: Anointed Throng [-1CP]
+ HQ [18 PL, -1CP, 317pts] +
Abominant [6 PL, -1CP, 105pts]: Stratagem: Field Commander [-1CP], Warlord Trait: Insidious Mindwyrm (Creed Twisted Helix)
Patriarch [8 PL, 137pts]: Warlordtrait Inspiring Leader, Familiar [12pts], Power: Mass Hypnosis, Power: Mental Onslaught, Might From Beyond, Relic: The Crouchling, [Warlord] (Creed Twisted Helix)
Primus [4 PL, 75pts]: Bonesword [3pts], Broodcoven Primus, Warlord Trait: Alien Majesty (Cult of the Four-Armed Emperor)
+ Troops [21 PL, 270pts] +
Brood Brothers Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Brood Brother [36pts], Brood Brothers Leader [4pts] (Creed Twisted Helix)
Brood Brothers Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Brood Brother [36pts], Brood Brothers Leader [4pts] (Creed Twisted Helix)
Brood Brothers Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Brood Brother [36pts], Brood Brothers Leader [4pts] (Creed Twisted Helix)
Neophyte Hybrids [4 PL, 50pts]: 9x Neophyte Hybrid [45pts]. Neophyte Leader [5pts]: Autogun, Autopistol (Creed Twisted Helix)
Neophyte Hybrids [4 PL, 50pts]: 9x Neophyte Hybrid [45pts]. Neophyte Leader [5pts]: Autogun, Autopistol (Creed Twisted Helix)
Neophyte Hybrids [4 PL, 50pts]: 9x Neophyte Hybrid [45pts]. Neophyte Leader [5pts]: Autogun, Autopistol (Creed Twisted Helix)
+ Elites [19 PL, 352pts] +
Aberrants [14 PL, 252pts]. 8x Aberrant (Pick) [200pts]: 8x Power Pick [72pts]. 2x Aberrant Hypermorph (Improvised) [52pts]: 2x Heavy Improvised Weapon [20pts] (Creed Twisted Helix)
Kelermorph [3 PL, 60pts] (Creed Twisted Helix)
Locus [2 PL, 40pts] (Creed Twisted Helix)
+ Fast Attack [12 PL, 150pts] +
Atalan Jackals [6 PL, 75pts]. Atalan Jackal [15pts]: Demolition Charge [5pts], Shotgun. Atalan Jackal [15pts]: Demolition Charge [5pts], Shotgun. Atalan Jackal [15pts]: Demolition Charge [5pts], Shotgun. Atalan Jackal [15pts]: Demolition Charge [5pts], Shotgun. Atalan Leader [15pts]: Demolition Charge [5pts], Shotgun (Creed: Rusted Claw)
Atalan Jackals [3 PL, 40pts]. Atalan Jackal [10pts]: Cultist Knife, Shotgun. Atalan Jackal [10pts]: Cultist Knife, Shotgun. Atalan Jackal [10pts]: Cultist Knife, Shotgun. Atalan Leader [10pts]: Cultist Knife, ShotgunCult Scout Sentinels [3 PL, 35pts]. (Creed: Rusted Claw)
Cult Scout Sentinel [3 PL, 35pts]: Multi-laser [5pts]
+ Heavy Support [12 PL, 178pts] +
Brood Brothers Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 39pts]. 3x Brood Brothers Weapons Team [39pts]: 3x Mortar [21pts] (Creed Twisted Helix)
Brood Brothers Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 39pts]. 3x Brood Brothers Weapons Team [39pts]: 3x Mortar [21pts] (Creed Twisted Helix)
Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 100pts]: Heavy Seismic Cannon [20pts], Heavy Stubber [2pts]
++ Total: [109 PL, -6CP, 1750pts] ++
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Post by No One on May 5, 2019 10:13:29 GMT
I think we've got a lot of tricks to help against Tau. Mass hyp a key overwatch unit, kelermorph/MO to take out fireblade, possibly MO to take out a key greater good model, amulet to cut down firewarrior overwatch (bit much to expect anything more from this ). Then be cagey with who you declare as targets so they have to greater good, and have more chargers than they can deal with. Then hostage/tag and win from there. Of course, you've only got the 2 proper combat squads, so... As to flyer spam...umm...I dunno. Hope that they're bad at positioning and win by board control? We don't really have good answers for killing them: full jackal bomb should be able to kill 1, but that's 1 use. It's basically just that and psychics (though allying in nids for flyrants could work?)
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Post by riotearp on May 5, 2019 18:36:17 GMT
Yeah i could have shut down one unit of broadsides but after 3 of them my unit was nearly decimated wouldnt have made a diverence. After the Mental onslaught nerf im not running for high leadership and better casting so i can give my BL the amulette. I doubt that jackals can manage one Dark Eldar flyer. They are minus 1 to hit and give them another minus 1 on top.
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Post by gorsameth on May 6, 2019 0:02:15 GMT
Yeah i could have shut down one unit of broadsides but after 3 of them my unit was nearly decimated wouldnt have made a diverence. After the Mental onslaught nerf im not running for high leadership and better casting so i can give my BL the amulette. I doubt that jackals can manage one Dark Eldar flyer. They are minus 1 to hit and give them another minus 1 on top. And your +1 from Jackal Prime and +1 from Drive by Demolitions. Against a DE flyer you do 8 wounds average, just not enough to kill (need 10 for that, assuming they have a 6 fnp) 12 wounds against a Crimson Hunter (assuming no spirit stones) which kills it
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Post by deshkar on May 6, 2019 10:26:45 GMT
Yeah i could have shut down one unit of broadsides but after 3 of them my unit was nearly decimated wouldnt have made a diverence. After the Mental onslaught nerf im not running for high leadership and better casting so i can give my BL the amulette. I doubt that jackals can manage one Dark Eldar flyer. They are minus 1 to hit and give them another minus 1 on top. And your +1 from Jackal Prime and +1 from Drive by Demolitions. Against a DE flyer you do 8 wounds average, just not enough to kill (need 10 for that, assuming they have a 6 fnp) 12 wounds against a Crimson Hunter (assuming no spirit stones) which kills it Did u miscalculate? That's 8 wounds before d3 dmg from the demo charges. 16 damage before 6+++ fnp? So about 14 dmg to a DE flyer
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Post by No One on May 6, 2019 10:34:51 GMT
Did u miscalculate? That's 8 wounds before d3 dmg from the demo charges. 16 damage before 6+++ fnp? So about 14 dmg to a DE flyer Did you include lightning fast reactions? Though now that I think of it, jackal bomb isn't really a good answer to DE flyers (and arguably Eldar flyers) because Vect. They'll vect lying in wait, if you generations that they probably vect extra explosives.
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Post by deshkar on May 6, 2019 14:52:55 GMT
-2 negated by strategem and alphus. I run three demo bikes.
Took down flyer armies with them, mind control and smite:mental onslaught (every wound counts)
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