New gw rules for space pups, possible for nids?

[theoneeyedmonster]

So we have all long been hoping that some useful rules will come about for our outclassed bugs.

The ginger orks (new space wolves) apparently have the ability to assault after running, is this a sign how things are going to be I wonder?
With that horrible sky hammer formation, I wonder if there will be a possibility of us getting a unit to assault from reserves..

Of course this is just speculation, but better than just hating on gw for a (please do not swear) Dex.

I promised myself I wouldn't hope, I really have, as we have been shafted for 2 codex in a row now, and it's unlikely to be actually good, but a small glimmer appears and I can't get rid of it.

[reitifoh]

I agree, I have been trying not to hold out hope, but running then assault? if the wolves (already powerful space marines) are getting that rule then why not to the tyranids, we are SUPPOSE to be an assault race

[steviebizzle]

Having old fleet back is one of the most fundamental things that Tyranids need to be even remotely representative of their fluff, along with ignoring penalties to charging into or through terrain.

Either that or a ridiculous extension of charge ranges.

[pedro009]

Suppose we can assume that if nids don't get a similar buff then clearly GW is done with nids and we should all just collect for fun or start a new army...

Which could be the case if it means us spending more money.... would make sense for a model company to do. Nid players are an untapped source of future income.

We can only wait and see. And which rumour said we would have new codex / units in January?

[Deleted]

Jan 28, 2016 11:42:15 GMT pedro009 said:

Suppose we can assume that if nids don't get a similar buff then clearly GW is done with nids and we should all just collect for fun or start a new army...

Which could be the case if it means us spending more money.... would make sense for a model company to do. Nid players are an untapped source of future income.

We can only wait and see. And which rumour said we would have new codex / units in January?

This !!
I already started a new army with necron and tau since they bring the new eldar and SM dexes and broke the game !
They supposed to do a new codex in january, we have no news today about tyranids but just AoS, HH (I'm sick of this game....), SW(!!!!!) and Ad Mech........... 1 year after the 2 codexes (such a shame seriously)
but when I see what they can make with others armies like you said (a wulfen is far far away better than a tyranid warior for less points....), I'm really really thinking about stopping 40k and continue in infinity and xwing which bring me more pleasure during a game

Oh and ... i can't bear these eldar and SM players always yelling at us because we are complaining about the weakness of our codex and call us to stop crying.... Yes man, you know what ? play without me and go (please do not swear)

[pedro009]

I find its more Tau and Eldar...and Necron that have been pushed to the the point of broken.

I suppose if you don't enjoy a tabletop game it s time to call it quite. I think the Nid community will loose alot of ppl depending on how this next codex is done. I cannot see it be revamped to match the current meta...to many central changes to make to do that

[pedro009]

Quits**

[omnivore]

SW get assault after run and we will not...because Tyranids can't have nice things.

[slithernaut]

6E Eldar, Tau and SPESS MARINES all were released before our current tyranid book space wolves came out summer of 2014?
Nids came out in January of 2014.

Am I the only one that sees a problem with this?

[Charistoph]

Jan 28, 2016 15:16:51 GMT slithernaut said:

6E Eldar, Tau and SPESS MARINES all were released before our current tyranid book space wolves came out summer of 2014?
Nids came out in January of 2014.

Am I the only one that sees a problem with this?

Think how the Chaos Marines feel. They are the oldest codex currently out, including digitals!

Aside from a Sisters relaunch they are the only ones who come close to needing a new codex more than 'Nids.

[raz989]

Jan 28, 2016 15:40:48 GMT Charistoph said:

Jan 28, 2016 15:16:51 GMT slithernaut said:

6E Eldar, Tau and SPESS MARINES all were released before our current tyranid book space wolves came out summer of 2014?
Nids came out in January of 2014.

Am I the only one that sees a problem with this?

Think how the Chaos Marines feel. They are the oldest codex currently out, including digitals!

Aside from a Sisters relaunch they are the only ones who come close to needing a new codex more than 'Nids.

I don't know how long I've been waiting for the new Sisters... God I hate GW sometimes.

[theoneeyedmonster]

Well I will continue to hold my contempt for the Dex in check until the new release.
I stopped playing nids after a successive beating handed to me from all armies.
Eldar/de/ space marines/cribs and guard to a point just can pick apart our mc units and synapse, then I can't be bothered to play 2 turns of getting mopped up once my units start to eat each other. (I take plenty of synapse but whene flyers can target them, and can get bombarded ignores cover etc, not enough)

I have 8k of nids, a lot of swarm units and mcs, I haven't spent any money on any of the newer ones, as nids rules are still (please do not swear).
If the next codex gives us a chance even, without getting relentlessly pounded t1 and possible deep strike area denial or something, then eBay will be chocked full of nids I'm sure.

[Kwodd]

If CSM or DE didn't have awesome battle brother allies I'd agree that they need a dex more than Nids, this is not the case. If people don't want to use the tools at their disposal that's their problem. If an army is not givin access to major parts of the game (allies, brb powers, independent characters) and not givin the tools to compensate in their dex that's GWs problem and it needs to be fixed.

[Charistoph]

Jan 28, 2016 16:51:42 GMT Kwodd said:

If CSM or DE didn't have awesome battle brother allies I'd agree that they need a dex more than Nids, this is not the case. If people don't want to use the tools at their disposal that's their problem. If an army is not givin access to major parts of the game (allies, brb powers, independent characters) and not givin the tools to compensate in their dex that's GWs problem and it needs to be fixed.

Age is the main reason the Chaos Marines codex is in the ballpark, as is the same "blue period continued" aspect to much of the units like Tyranids have.

And you are correct that Chaos Marines have the Daemons, Daemonkin, and two supplements to enhance them even further, while 'Nids have half a dozen formation dataslates from four campaigns.

Allies are at least possible for 'Nids now, whereas they were denied even that before, even if those Allies are just better off left for a completely different list most of the time. But unless a Genestealer codex comes out, Allies are more of an afterthought than a serious contender.

[theoneeyedmonster]

So someone on another forum translated this from German, not bad for 15/180pts...

Curse of the Wulfen.
All non-vehicle models within 6" is affected. For Blood/Sky/swift claws it is 12", for Long Fangs it is 3".
Wulfen, Servitors and units that starts in a transport are not affected.
At the start of the player turn, roll a single dice for all units. The effect lasts until your next player round.
Units outside of combat gains the Hunt tables effect, units in combat gains the Kill effect.
Hunt
1-3: re-rolls failed charges and... Smashdown? Don't know. EDIT: Just read a translation that said it was Hamer of Wrath, which makes more sense.
4-5: Add 3" when you move, run or charge. Basically dunestrider.
6: All models gain Furios Charge and gains 1d3 attacks for charging, unless they have Rage.

Kill:
1-4: +1 initiative.
4-5: Re-rolls to wound.
6: If killed, you may attack before being removed, even if you already fought in an earlier Initiative step.


Wargear.
Helfrost pistol. I will laugh if that thing ends up being 15 points and straight up better then plasma pistols.
Grenade launcher is 12", S4 Ap5 assault 3. Or assault D3?
I think they don't even need to fire it to benefit from assault grenades in close combat.

Frostclaws are +1S, AP2, Shred.
Stormhammer have Helfrost
Twohanded frost-axe is S+3 AP2. "Merciless swing?"
Strike at normal initiative when charging, otherwise at I1. That is 5 S8 AP2 attacks at initiative 5. But hey, who needs instakill T4 when you can drown the opponent in S6 AP2.

EDIT: Huh, nobody among the wulfen have access to helfrost pistol. Are we getting some character model as well?