So if the rumor mill is true. Is GW going to overhaul the ty
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Post by slithernaut on Jan 9, 2016 0:31:40 GMT
Yeah. And monkies *could* fly out of my butt. This post is useless without pics!
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Post by gigasnail on Jan 9, 2016 0:49:53 GMT
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Post by doomreaper9 on Jan 9, 2016 1:43:20 GMT
Lol! You crack me up gig.
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Post by Davor on Jan 9, 2016 17:54:20 GMT
Try opening your mind, maybe Age of Sigmar or Age of Emperor could be an awesome game. You could really field a proper Tyranid army and have a very fluffy game doing so. Not saying you have a closed mind gauntlet, but seeing comments like this and I see those comments wrong in my eyes, just wanted to say this. You can 100% field a fluffy Tyranid army right now with all our formations. I think people are really over doing it with the "Our book is useless in EVERY regard" thing. If you play with people who have the same outlook on how to play the game then things work perfectly. Obviously I am not saying the book is perfect or without any flaws (It has many), but the way you have talked in recent posts makes it seem like you view our dex as being unusable even in beer & pretzel matches. Also people need to learn that a "fluffy" Tyranid army varies constantly from individual to individual. Sure Tyranids have a kind of 'guideline' written on how they should act, but that does not mean it is the be all end all. That IMO is the beauty of it all, it is YOUR Hive Fleet, so you get to determine what is fluffy and what is not when it comes down to it. We are NOT OVER DOING it with "our book is useless". I believe, but could be wrong, that we are doing it now so people/posters/forum members STAY GROUNDED. I can't remember when you showed up or others, but I have been here for a while. I believe when the Tyranid 5th edition codex came out, we were all flying so high and came crashing down after seeing how other codices were in design/power level/fun level. We got what we did, we were dumbfounded. Then a lot of us had high hopes again for our 6th edition codex. This time it was Fool ME ONCE SHAME ON ME, FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON YOU. Thing is, AGAIN high hopes were on our forums and else where to get a better codex. I am sure you know how that went. So much negativity again and rightly so. Now it's happening all over again. I and I am sure others as well are just trying to keep people grounded from getting butt hurt again over a third edition Cruddace codex. For a long time we didn't have this negativity for a while but a lot of high hopes were seen recently and me and others just want to make sure these people's eyes are open so they know what may happen since it already happened 2 times. We don't want people to be so butt hurt again. Do I think our codex is usable? Of course I do. Why don't I say it? I don't want people to fly so high over expectations that will never happen. We have lost a lot of forum members. I know life happens, peoples lives change so they don't do plastic toy soldiers anymore. Also the 5th edition caused a lot of people to quit and never to been seen again. From reading their posts it was because of a cruddy codex and they couldn't invest the money, time and energy into anymore. So they quit the forums. I really don't want to see this again so if it takes talking (please do not swear) on our books so people stay and expect a third edition cruddy codex so be it. I am sure I am not alone here.
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Post by tylertt on Jan 9, 2016 23:14:43 GMT
Almost 75% of your posts are about how you never have fun anymore. All I simply said was just have fun with the game.
And I do think people complain far too often in regards to not being able to play fluffy Nids. My first post was in relation to playing fluffy Nids and not specifically at the book on a broad whole. I get it is a less then optimal book.
And nothing is 'happening all over again'. A basic starter kit with a formation came out is all. Sure our formation may be a bit on the weak side, but there is nothing hinting to ANY degree of a new codex, or where Nids are even going in the future. For all we know they are working on giving us a bit more internally balanced book and this formation will fit it to make things decent again. I think your getting a little too bit into this.
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Post by Charistoph on Jan 9, 2016 23:37:32 GMT
There is a player who could be classed as our local "bug" expert, having played since 2nd Edition and has a healthy amount of models and bits.
I don't know of a time he has been beaten while playing 'Nids in recent memory. He still complains about the codex, though. And to be fair, there is as much reason to complain about the current codex as Chaos Space Marines have for theirs. It's not completely to do with the lack of powerful options, but the simple dearth of options which would have allowed powerful options to be a consideration in the first place.
This lack of allowing for options that cannot be modeled is irritating for many armies, but for the 'Nids, it is devastating as they used to rely on them.
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Post by Davor on Jan 9, 2016 23:45:40 GMT
And nothing is 'happening all over again'. Yes it is my friend. Haven't you read the posts and threads where some people have hope that the new 7th edition Nids codex will be the savings grace for Nids? I am not the only person to quote these people and saying don't daydream with full of hope. Another thing is, I made a comment. An opinion. You don't need to prove me wrong. It's an opinion. I now this is your opinion, but the way you are saying it is fact and I am wrong. I am not wrong, neither are you. Just showing you how I see my side.
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Post by Hive Tyrant Qiln on Jan 10, 2016 0:26:37 GMT
You forget one thing Davor. Although people may be leaving, new people like me are coming in. Not all these noobs see the Tau/AM/SM/Eldar and say OOOH! I WANT IT.
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Post by Davor on Jan 10, 2016 5:04:23 GMT
You forget one thing Davor. Although people may be leaving, new people like me are coming in. Not all these noobs see the Tau/AM/SM/Eldar and say OOOH! I WANT IT. No I am not forgetting. I just don't want to see another exodus again. It's been so long since we got new blood. It was great when that happened.
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Post by iyama on Jan 10, 2016 20:04:05 GMT
There are many things I'd like to see changed, many added, some tweeked and some I'd like to see not messed with, but sadly I have come to expect a little disappointment as you can never please all off the people all of the time.
I've been a tyranid player since the days of the 3rd edition however I sadly missed 4th due to real life being in the way, so I'd love to see some changes that rekindle some of that editions old traits, and some of 3rds also, such as old one eyes getting back up after he's killed rule. I'd also like to see some points reductions here and there to make some of my play styles a little more viable. I used to play very MC heavy but I'm trying to go more gribbly heavy now, however I struggle to keep everything in synapse sometimes so points reductions to get my synapses in would always be greatly welcome. And as fuynny as it is I'm still waiting for the nuclear pyrovore rules fixed, maybe even make it a worthwhile unit seeing as the model is still one of the nicest looking in my opinion
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Post by pedro009 on Jan 11, 2016 7:42:31 GMT
I do like how we are all so passionate about Nids...not just the game. And the best thing is....no one can ever accuse a nid player of being a power gamer. (Even with flyrants....We need at least one unit!!!)
Played a 2k CAD ( no formations) game the other night against a Chaos space marine player...so two very different armies both in need of an update.
During the game one thing we both said was firstly
- it was alot of fun as the armies were so different
- you actually have to be tactical....serious those formations take away the skill for the most part
- we both stood a chance of winning....no one was any "better" then the other
Whereas the table next to us was Tau Vs Nids and it was over by turn three and wasn't even fun to observe. (seriously the Tau player was re rolling twos to hit and ignoring cover)
I wud just like a codex were playing against some armies is not going to be a one sided affair the entire time.
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Post by reitifoh on Jan 11, 2016 12:16:07 GMT
I do like how we are all so passionate about Nids...not just the game. And the best thing is....no one can ever accuse a nid player of being a power gamer. (Even with flyrants....We need at least one unit!!!) Played a 2k CAD ( no formations) game the other night against a Chaos space marine player...so two very different armies both in need of an update. During the game one thing we both said was firstly - it was alot of fun as the armies were so different - you actually have to be tactical....serious those formations take away the skill for the most part - we both stood a chance of winning....no one was any "better" then the other Whereas the table next to us was Tau Vs Nids and it was over by turn three and wasn't even fun to observe. (seriously the Tau player was re rolling twos to hit and ignoring cover) I wud just like a codex were playing against some armies is not going to be a one sided affair the entire time. EXACTLY, I played against guard yesterday with a full melee army (just for fun) and he fielded around 6 transport/ tanks + 2 drop pods (space marine allies) the amount of rerolls he was getting was just unbelievable he was re rolling all 1's, had preferred enemy, tactical doctrines AND had sheer volume of fire power due to being guards. even with my good luck and cover saves by the end of turn 2 my forces were tabled before they even got into assault.... and this was with 3 Flyrants, 1 tyrannofex, malanthropes and lots of gaunts/ gargoyles!!! yes if I had got into assault it would have been different (rending claws on flyrants sliced through a tank like tissue paper) but with that amount of rerolls, even a low BS skill army like guards could wound with at least 75% of shots. Playing tyranids we all know we will loose if we try to play them as their fluff (up close and personal), but COME ON!!!! its hard enough for us to get into assault as it is.... with most armies getting sooooo many rerolls (and ours only being from the grossly overused TLD) what chance do we have? unless there are BIG changes in the new codex, I have a feeling I will start to follow the tide.... give up on so many of our 'fun' units, and just have lots and LOTS of TLD,. I don't mind loosing, playing the game is fun in itself..... but when you have armies that can destroy you before you even get a chance to fight back? that can break the morale of even the best tyranid players
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Post by gauntlet on Jan 11, 2016 18:52:54 GMT
... I wud just like a codex were playing against some armies is not going to be a one sided affair the entire time. can break the morale of even the best tyranid players Such a noob! To preserve Tyranid player morale, you have to stay within Synapse. It used to be the rule, you would run back to Synapse if your moral broke, but alas nowadays the Cruddex will have you, slit your wrists or rage quit.
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Post by atrocity on Jan 11, 2016 23:43:37 GMT
My guess:
All formations and units currently not in the codex will be incorporated A new overpriced gargantuan that does nothing but die to grav Devourers with brain leech worms are lowered to S5
Because (please do not swear) all Tyranid players!
That's my guess...
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Post by vandalex on Jan 12, 2016 1:51:17 GMT
I haven't been active for a long time, but I can't help but feel optimistic about a new codex. The recent codex GW have released have all been strong, and they feel very well themed. Necrons are hard to kill, tau are shooty with their flexible tactics, Khorne daemonkin spill blood. I have only a small meta where I am, so I don't see heaps of tournaments, but even if they make nids dead useless, the disappointment cant be that much worse than last time. Unless their going to remove tyranids completely from warhammer, they can't make us much worse.
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