How to fix: Tyrannofex

[krakentendrilswarm]

These "how to fix" threads are fun if nothing else. 

The Tyrannofex is pretty clear in what it wants to be doing on the battlefield: a combination of incredible resistance to damage and top-of-the-line ranged firepower.

I honestly think it has the resilience down fairly well. T6/6W/2+ with the option for Regenerate is pretty good.

What we really need to look at are the ranged options. All three of the primary weapons clearly need some love.

I would propose the following:

- Give the Tyrannofex the Symbiotic Targeting rule (from the Exocrine)
- Rupture Cannon retains the current profile, but gains the "Cataclysmic Reaction" special rule so that when both shots hit a vehicle/superheavy/MC/GC an additional automatic S10/AP1 hit is inflicted to represent the crazy effect described in the weapon's fluff as the two seed pods react together. This has the potential to be very nasty anti-tank firepower, but not as brainless as "lol Strength D!".
- Acid Spray simply needs AP3 to be a very viable option
- Fleshborer Hive is harder to work, being a cloud of bugs. I suppose the best I could come up with for it would be "Assault 20, Range 18", S4/AP5, but then throw on Twin-linked, Shred, Blind and Pinning to represent a unit literally being lost in a fog of airborne beetles

[dcoy]

The Fleshborer Hive doesn't need to be fixed, it's borderline overpowered already!

[Kark]

I was thinking about T7 tyrannofex, so he cannot be harmed by S3. As for ranged weapons rupture cannon could compete with bio cannons, having 3-4 shots with S10 AP3\AP2.

[N.I.B.]

T-fex is fine, as is his Acid Spray. The only thing that needs work is the Rupture Cannon, and the Fleshborer goof.

[Silegy]

How to fix threads are not fun, as vast majority of the posts are just stupid wishlisting and usually dont call for things to be fixed, but stupidly overpowered, until it finally breaks down to a flamewar for one reason or another.

Also, Tyrannofex is fine and well and doesnt need buffs, that wouldnt be fixing, but making it broken.

What does need fixing is Rupture cannon (would suck dick even with that seemingly good special rule of yours, you just dont hit two shots with it) and Fleshborer Hive (if you want it, take Gargoyles).

[heavyturtle]

Here's my thoughts: make t fex simple abd clean BS 4, S6, T7. A flat BS4 will make the weapons viable.

All the above for 200 points.

Edit: make rupture cannon AP2, AP 1 if both shots hit

[jimmyp]

Tyrannofex is great, he's acid spray is brilliant. I totally agree the rupture cannon needs a higher ap 1 or 2, he needs a better BS as well... Then he's great!
A cool rule on the second hit could be unique, simple thing of getting reroll on vehicle damage chart.....not overpowered then

[bolk]

T-fex gets BS4.
Rupture Cannon becomes AP1.
Fleshborer Hive becomes twinlinked and AP4.

[manbrick]

I think the Tyrannofex is pretty good as is. It's more his options that need fixing.
The Acid Spray is great now that it has Torrent, i wouldn't change it at all.
The Fleshborer Hive, performs a similar role to the Acid Spray but having to roll to hit at BS3 just kills it. Give it twin linked and problem solved.
The Rupture Cannon is both over priced and under powered. Make it cheaper (like 10-20pts) and better at dealing with armour.
I'd make it atleast AP3, and maybe allow it to roll two dice on the damage chart and apply the desired result. Something other than making it a tyranid railgun (AP1)
And he should be able to swap his Stinger salvo for Cluter Spines for +5pts. A Tervigon can do it, why can't a T-fex?

[bronyzro]

Yeah, better BS and Twin-Linked or Shred on the Hive is all he needs to be top notch. Decent AP on rupture cannon would definitely be nice, but that's a lower priority for me.

Oh, and make the Fleshborer Hive a free upgrade. C'mon GW.

[overlordmidus]

maybe just give the Rupture cannon symbiotic targeting? just to improve the odds of one shot hitting, and making it a viable long range threat, rather than an ignorable one. and give each shot +2 on the vehicle damage chart if both shots hit.

[stonehorse]

The Rupture Cannon is meant to be a long range anti armour weapon, at AP4 it will never achieve that. It needs to be at least AP2 in order to do the role it is designed to do.

As for the Fleshborer Hive, make it a free replacement to the Acid Spray, it isn't that great, making it twin-linked could be an interesting way to make it more appealing.

Acid Spray is brilliant, I'd love it to be AP3, but we're Tyranids not Eldar, so aren't allowed to be that good.

Increase BS to 4, or at the very least give it a special rule like the Exocrine (Symbiotic Targeting rule), and also give the option to upgrade the Stinger Salvo into Cluster Spines.

[glitchrr36]

all it needs is bs4, the hive to stay the same but with the "Fleshborer Hive is harder to work, being a cloud of bugs. I suppose the best I could come up with for it would be "Assault 20, Range 18", S4/AP5, but then throw on Twin-linked, Shred, Blind and Pinning to represent a unit literally being lost in a fog of airborne beetles" thing, and the rupture being ap2 with cataclysmic with an s10 ap3 large blast

[jimmyp]

May 13, 2015 13:18:08 GMT stonehorse said:

The Rupture Cannon is meant to be a long range anti armour weapon, at AP4 it will never achieve that. It needs to be at least AP2 in order to do the role it is designed to do.

As for the Fleshborer Hive, make it a free replacement to the Acid Spray, it isn't that great, making it twin-linked could be an interesting way to make it more appealing.

Acid Spray is brilliant, I'd love it to be AP3, but we're Tyranids not Eldar, so aren't allowed to be that good.

Increase BS to 4, or at the very least give it a special rule like the Exocrine (Symbiotic Targeting rule), and also give the option to upgrade the Stinger Salvo into Cluster Spines.

This.....^ excellent suggestion

Forgot rupture cannon is ap4!! Stupid to believe a space marine would still get its 3+ armour save lol

[stonehorse]

Just thought, as Eldar were allowed to field their tanks in Squadrons, imagine if Tyrannofexs were allowed to be fielded in Broods of 1-3.

Happy Days.