Snapshot of the meta

[N.I.B.]

www.torrentoffire.com/5306/summers-movers-and-shakers-so-far

Tyranids improving.

[monkeychuka]

I think its down to rippers. They are so terrible on paper that your opponent can't be bothered to kill them. So you deep strike in an clean up in Maelstrom missions. They are so cute that they can't even kill themselves with cannibalistic hunger.

[WestRider]

The change in Grounding Tests probably helps, too, especially in our big jump against Guard, who can no longer force lots of Grounding Tests with little Units and then pound away with the rest of the Army once something hits the dirt. Guard are also one of the matchups where the corresponding nerf to Smash and Assaulting from Swooping means the least, and they've been leaning even more heavily on Blasts in many ways. Their Anti-Air also got hurt by the Vendetta Nerf.

[chuckles]

Can swarms now claim objectives then?

[atrocity]

Aug 1, 2014 11:04:15 GMT chuckles said:

Can swarms now claim objectives then?

Yupp. And if they're troops they've got Objective Secured. So Nurglings and Rippers dancing happydance!

[tylertt]

Aug 1, 2014 11:04:15 GMT chuckles said:

Can swarms now claim objectives then?

Yup! Rippers got a huge boost in terms of objective holding on the table.

I tried them out a few times and my opponent couldn't stand them, they are small enough that they can not be seen behind the majority of our ruins terrain, and for them to kill them, they need to come right on into my deployment area aha.

Some have had a lot of success DS'ing them in to steal objectives in Maelstrom and also Eternal war missions as well.

Nids definitely got a lot of boosts in the 7th Ed rules. Although taking nerfs is some areas as well too. But I am finding Nids to be a lot of fun personally.

I know you and I bumped heads a lot when our dex dropped man, but seriously give the ol Nids a try again. If you like Maelstrom missions, they are a blast with our army. They need a bit of modifications, but overall it is well done when you fix a few things.

(Side note since you don't got a 7th ed BRB, flamers can now hurt units inside of open-topped transports too, so our Tfex is a beast Vs DE vehicles..its the little things that matter )

[Silegy]

Speaking of meta, allow me to throw in this one: www.torrentoffire.com/5388/army-build-power-rankings-volume-1

Pretty cool stuff imo, can't wait for its update once they take in BAO results.
Also, would someone care to tell me what DCA Bomb CAV Daemons are?

[WestRider]

DCA Bomb is GK using Death Cult Assassins with various support, and Charging them out of Land Raiders or Storm Ravens.

Daemon Cav is a Slaanesh build taking advantage of the ridiculous speed and number of Rending Attacks of Seekers of Slaanesh to get a bunch of Models that can threaten just about anything short of an Ironclad or Soulgrinder up in the Opponent's face very fast.

[Silegy]

Aug 1, 2014 11:47:26 GMT WestRider said:

DCA Bomb is GK using Death Cult Assassins with various support, and Charging them out of Land Raiders or Storm Ravens.

Daemon Cav is a Slaanesh build taking advantage of the ridiculous speed and number of Rending Attacks of Seekers of Slaanesh to get a bunch of Models that can threaten just about anything short of an Ironclad or Soulgrinder up in the Opponent's face very fast.

Oh man, I remember reading something about the CAV after the current Codex: Daemons release on 1d4. It was looking like a ton of fun! I may jump on this, this is what I started Tyranids for. So now it is possible with Daemons? Great!

And the DCA Bomb looks like some funzies as well

Man, I never realised how many fun lists are around

[WestRider]

There are some surprisingly good ones. I've been fooling around with an Unbound Khorne list full of Spawn, MaulerFiends, and Flesh Hounds that I've just been having a blast with. Not tournament-winning by any means, but it plays fast, and it's almost always an exciting game, regardless of which way it goes

[Silegy]

A friend of mine had some fun list in mind as well:
Imperial Knight Paladin Warlord
The Obsidian Knight
Gerantius

2x Vengeance Battery - Quad Icarus Lascannon
2x Vengeance Battery - Quad Icarus Lascannon
Firestorm Redoubt (+Magos Machine Spirit)
Void Shield Generator (3xShield)
Void Shield Generator (2xShield)


Quoting him: "Well, I dont think this list has the means to win games. But imagine how pissed off people would be when they see it."

EDIT: Btw got some sample current (cant get the proper word I wanna use, sorry) Deamon Cavalry list?

[thenokken]

News like this makes me want to paint, but cleaning house is more important. ):

[atrocity]

I like the slaanesh bomb. Take a comm's relay and put and unit of horrors or two next to it. Everything else deep strikes.

10 daemonettes with an Icon appears, next to it another 10 with an Icon. Next to that:
3 slaanesh soul grinders, 9-18 fiends, 20 daemonettes with heralds full of telepathy. Psychic shriek or invisibility or shrouded will be there. Next they all run until they're 1" from your whole army...
IN. YO. FACE.

Quite a few players find that troublesome.

[Silegy]

Aug 1, 2014 15:35:42 GMT atrocity said:

I like the slaanesh bomb. Take a comm's relay and put and unit of horrors or two next to it. Everything else deep strikes.

10 daemonettes with an Icon appears, next to it another 10 with an Icon. Next to that:
3 slaanesh soul grinders, 9-18 fiends, 20 daemonettes with heralds full of telepathy. Psychic shriek or invisibility or shrouded will be there. Next they all run until they're 1" from your whole army...
IN. YO. FACE.

Quite a few players find that troublesome.

That... arouses me....

[gigasnail]

I'd like to see the analysis with the BAO results in.