dimachaeron and you

[gigasnail]

how is the superlictor working for you? what's your setup? share your glorious successes and your ignominious defeats.

[webebuggin]

You know, in small points games, giving the opponent the 'D' is incredibly overwhelming. Played a 700 point game with Dimachaeron, an HQ prime, the new malenthrope and a few termagants against a new ork list (one bigmech weird boy and some bunch of troops) and wow, Dimachaeron shines. He simply slaughters enemies that don't have the power to forestall him in CC. He is what they trygon should have been. He overwhelmed a mob of 15 boys solo.

I believe I had something like 9 attacks on the charge with HoW and sheeze that strength 7 talons...against units with single wounds their is nothing better. Rolled that awesome 6 to hit ate a boy and just stomped through the rest of the game with him. I am hesitant to purchase something THAT expensive when my locals are totally fine with proxy trygons. His model is cool but I just won't likely give him much use in higher point games enough to justify buying and transporting him. I would happily have paid an additional 50 to 75 points for a 12" move. The fact that points wise he competes with dakka fex just does not warrant his use...Also wish he could be taken in squads. Maybe in the future forgeworld will do a data-slate with him and lictors. Him being able to stealth deploy would not be much different than a winged tyrant deepstriking and would make him WELL worth that 200 points.

[malebranche]

How have you been finding its movement rule? Ignoring cover unless it stops in it seems kind of pointless with 6" movement and a 6" base, unless I'm missing something.

[coredump]

The base is more like 4" x 3.5"

And webebuggin, I have a surprise for you... those talons are *S8* on the charge. (+1 from the weapon, and +1 from furious charge)

[gigasnail]

something else to consider about the dime is to just use the leap during assault, not during its move. its already an MC with MTC, so let it waltz through w/e during the movement phase. during the assault, let it leap, get the HoW bonus, and it already re-rolls the charge distance thanks to fleet. should be able to clear some real estate, even if its base is pretty derpy.

[yowster12]

Poxied my Trygon as one. It was brutal!!!

My opponent was.all wide eyed when he read the rules for leap.

I charged a 10 man marine squad. I had a unit of something like 8 gaunts in a line to get Dima some cover with Venom. I charged OVER the Termas AND a small wall. The marine player actually was like WTF showed him the rules. He laughed and removed the squad whole.


Funniest face I have ever seen anyone make!

As Giga said. Save the Leap for the assault. Its the best use for it.

[webebuggin]

Jul 26, 2014 8:36:17 GMT coredump said:

The base is more like 4" x 3.5"

And webebuggin, I have a surprise for you... those talons are *S8* on the charge. (+1 from the weapon, and +1 from furious charge)

oh snap I completely forgot the +1 from glands charge. Not that it would have mattered against he Boys he wrecked.

The movement...is nothing special. The base being as large as it is makes it hard to traverse random terrain even jumping. Used it one time to good effect to 'leap' a wall before assaulting.

I really see this guy as a massive hindrance to jump and hit and run troops which we kinda of didnt have a good way to stop before. Though getting him into combat is still just as dumb as any other MC without wings we have.

[Squire]

Jul 27, 2014 0:13:43 GMT yowster12 said:

Poxied my Trygon as one. It was brutal!!!

My opponent was.all wide eyed when he read the rules for leap.

I charged a 10 man marine squad. I had a unit of something like 8 gaunts in a line to get Dima some cover with Venom. I charged OVER the Termas AND a small wall. The marine player actually was like WTF showed him the rules. He laughed and removed the squad whole.


Funniest face I have ever seen anyone make!

As Giga said. Save the Leap for the assault. Its the best use for it.

Wasn't that fixed in the new rules? I know it was ambiguous before, but I thought you couldn't do that any more and need 25% coverage from intervening models

[gigasnail]

page 38, brb, 2nd sentence. even if the target is completely visible, if the firing unit is shooting through an intervening unit, the target gets a cover save.

[coredump]

Hmmmm.... should we start another 6 page thread rehashing the same arguments...

Nah... Squire, talk to your local group and see how they are playing it. I agree with you, but lots agree with Giga. Maybe, once they are done catching all the flying pigs and milking the unicorns, GW will release a FAQ or two.

[gigasnail]

milking unicorns ; ;

[coredump]

I.... really don't know...

[brassangel]

Jul 27, 2014 1:23:39 GMT coredump said:

Hmmmm.... should we start another 6 page thread rehashing the same arguments...

Nah... Squire, talk to your local group and see how they are playing it. I agree with you, but lots agree with Giga. Maybe, once they are done catching all the flying pigs and milking the unicorns, GW will release a FAQ or two.

I don't really think it's a cloudy issue. It says the unit gets a cover save, even if completely visible, so long as another unit is intervening. Kind of an "end of discussion" amount of clarity, really.

[coredump]

Except it *doesn't* say that, you are adding words to the rule and changing its meaning.

Hey its easy to get "end of discussion" if you change what the rule actually says...

[gigasnail]

...that's nearly word for word what it says.