Space Marine 1250 Pts List

[tylertt]

Hey Hive, so with my Space Marines on the way and my gaming group wanting to do another tournament in the near future, I figured I'd attempt to give my Marines a go if I have them in time.

So based off of your experiences what advice can people give me on a 1250 pts list of Marines? I am planning on playing Ultramarines as my primary detachment, but wouldn't be against having some allies from another chapter. However White Scars are the only ones off limits for me as I will not have any bikes at this time unfortunately..

[infornography]

The obvious starting point is taking Tigurius.

Beyond that though, Ultramarines are wide open on options. What models do you have and what playstyle do you prefer?

[tylertt]

Currently here is what I have available to myself:

x4 Tactical Squads (10 Man units)
X1 Scouts with Snipers (5 Scouts)
X2 Assault Marines (5 Man units)
x1 Drop Pod
x1 Venerable Dreadnought
x1 Rhino
x1 Razorback
x1 Land Raider
x1 Drop Pod
x1 Captain/Commander
x1 Command Squad
x1 Sternguard Veterans (5 man unit)
x1 Terminator Squad (5 man unit)
x1 Landspeeder

Not the strongest assortment of units, but I plan on getting much more in the coming months before the (hopefully) Tyranid release.

As for play style I am unsure of how exactly I wish to play my Marines. I have yet to have a chance to play a game with Ultramarines yet. From what I have been reading about them I do want to try a fairly offensively defensive force, not a right in your face assaulting army, but one that keeps the pressure on and can dig in and play the objective game successfully.

I do plan on trying to get my hands on Tigurius. From what I have heard he should run full out on divination and act as a primary buffing force. I have also heard he works extremely well with Dev Centurians as well.

[infornography]

Yeah, Tig is an absurdly good force multiplier.

You probably want to run a mechanized gunline list with a hammernator or honor guard squad in the land raider to put some pressure on your opponent.

You should probably get some devastators and another rhino or two. Thunderfire cannons are also quite good for laying down pain downfield.

A bit of anti air would also help. Aegis defense line with quad gun and/or storm ravens/talons are the go to units there.

What flavor of terminators do you have? Assault or tactical? If you have assault termies equipped with hammers and shields you can load them up in that land raider and have a solid melee front.

You can run that captain as a chapter master or one of the special characters in the UM list. They have several good ones to choose from. Calgar is EXCELLENT but expensive.

I'm also a fan of having at least one drop pod unit that can drop into the enemy's back lines and cause mischief. Melta/combi-melta/multimelta is a good loadout for that team. Drop in behind a tank and remove it from the game. Flamers also work well for this.

If you can put together a list I can help critique it and fine tune.

[tylertt]

I have only had a few chances to read over the SM Codex and mine should be here this week. I'll get my list posted up once I have a chance to get more familiar with the book. Appreciate the advice thus far.

My Termi's are Tactical ones, unfortunately I do not have any CC ones yet. Do you find the only real use for the land raider is for Hammernators? I've heard a lot of people not being overly big fans of the Land Raiders themselves, but they do enjoy the other loadouts of them as compared to the standard one.

[infornography]

Land raiders are too expensive to be worth it as just a weapons platform. They are best used as a weapons platform that transports an assault unit. Usually hammernators or Honor Guard. Basic land raiders are good anti tank and can transport a minimum sized unit of terminators. If you want an HQ to join them, you need a different land raider. Redeemers are good anti space marine weapons platforms with enough room for a minimum sized terminator unit and one or two ICs. Crusaders have enough room for up to 7 terminators with ICs or 8 unsupported terminators. Their firepower is mostly anti-infantry though which space marines usually don't have a hard time taking care of. It all depends on what you need out of your raider.

If you are running with honor guard, I would actually recommend sticking with the basic land raider.

[tylertt]

This is what I've come up with for a sample list to test out. Thoughts and advice?


* Chapter Tactics
Ultramarines


+ HQ + (205pts)

* Chapter Master (205pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Independent Character, Orbital Bombardment)
Power Armor, replace Chainsword with Relic Blade (25pts), The Shield Eternal (50pts)


+ Elites + (385pts)

* Dreadnought (160pts)
Multi-Melta, Venerable (25pts) (*)
* Dreadnaught Power Fist
Storm Bolter
* Drop Pod (35pts)
Storm Bolter


* Sternguard Veteran Squad (225pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads)
2x Combi-Melta (20pts), 2x Meltagun (20pts), 4x Veteran (88pts)
* Drop Pod (35pts)
Storm Bolter
* Space Marine Sergeant (62pts)
Plasma Pistol (15pts), Power Weapon (15pts)


+ Troops + (535pts)

* Scout Squad (60pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads, Infiltrate, Move Through Cover, Scout)
* Scout Sergeant (12pts)
Sniper Rifle (1pts)
* Scouts (12pts)
Bolt pistol, Sniper Rifle (1pts)
* Scouts (12pts)
Bolt pistol, Sniper Rifle (1pts)
* Scouts (12pts)
Bolt pistol, Sniper Rifle (1pts)
* Scouts (12pts)
Bolt pistol, Sniper Rifle (1pts)


* Tactical Squad (215pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads)
Multi-Melta (10pts), Plasma Gun (15pts), Rhino (35pts) (Repair, Tank), 9x Space Marine (126pts)
* Space Marine Sergeant (29pts)
Bolt pistol, Power Weapon (15pts)


* Tactical Squad (260pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads)
Meltagun (10pts), Multi-Melta (10pts), 9x Space Marine (126pts)
* Razorback (75pts)
(Tank)
Twin-Linked Lascannons (20pts)
* Space Marine Sergeant (39pts)
Bolt pistol, Power Fist (25pts)


+ Fast Attack + (125pts)

* Stormtalon Gunship (125pts)
(Aerial Assault, Escort Craft, Hover Strike, Supersonic)
Skyhammer Missile Launcher (15pts), Twin-Linked Assault Cannon

[lordofthebrood]

Out of interest, why are you not giving the Chapter Master artificer armour? Unless it comes with the shield eternal... (I don't have my codex with me at the moment).