New BRB FAQ is Out

[Raven]

Not much that affects Tyranids, though the age old debate of ID blasts and swarms has finally been resolved, and Daemonettes can't reduce models to Initiative 0 so that can't fight back.

[scrotatohead]

I noticed the change to "The Relic" and how the Relic is dropped by units under certain conditions.

[coredump]

A *lot* of the FAQs got updated, and most were updated just 2 months ago. They are not shy about continually updating.... way cool.



BTW, I don't remember folks talking about the last update (Feb), but Nids now disembark within 6" for the SPore pods....

[swarmy]

Apr 23, 2013 16:57:29 GMT coredump said:

A *lot* of the FAQs got updated, and most were updated just 2 months ago. They are not shy about continually updating.... way cool.



BTW, I don't remember folks talking about the last update (Feb), but Nids now disembark within 6" for the SPore pods....

That February FAQ changed my gaming life...well, not really, but it made my spore filled list that much more viable.

I'm really liking this slightly more attentive GW. It's like they are trying to give us what we are paying for in a luxury item

[WestRider]

The change to Blasts is pretty important as well. Wounds from them can now be Allocated to Models entirely out of LoS, which makes hiding most of a Backfield Warrior Brood and just poking the Barbed Strangler out a bit riskier proposition.

[blindmage]

Well now! XD

The ruling on Swarms has made me VERY Happy!! *dances* Muah ha ha ha ha!

Also:

Q: Do attacks, wargear and special rules that automatically affect
enemy units, such as Imotekh’s ‘Lord of the Storm’ special rule,
affect Allies of Convenience? (p112).
A: Yes

This worries me for some reason.

[Davor]

Why do the swarms rule better now? Haven't played 6th yet, so not shure how the changes will be.

[gigasnail]

correction: sorry i am at work and it's been rather hectic.

[gigasnail]

reading it and retyping my response for the 4th time, i answered my own question.

the faq states that even though swarms take double wounds from blasts/templates, the fact that the wounds are doubled doesn't mean you remove additional bases.

if i'm following this right, example: unit of longfangs hit and wound with 3 plasma cannon shots on a unit of five rippers. the first wound is allocated to the closest ripper, then doubled, and it makes its cover saves if applicable, if it fails it's removed as a casualty because of ID. repeat for the remaining wounds.

previously, the unit would have taken 6 ID wounds, one at a time, and wiped the unit most likely.

edited because i'm a dumbass.

[WestRider]

Frag Missiles won't cause ID on Rippers, but if you replace them with Plasma Cannon or something, the example holds.

[gigasnail]

yeah, dur. sorry. like i said, work was hellish today.

[Raven]

Apr 23, 2013 18:05:42 GMT WestRider said:

The change to Blasts is pretty important as well. Wounds from them can now be Allocated to Models entirely out of LoS, which makes hiding most of a Backfield Warrior Brood and just poking the Barbed Strangler out a bit riskier proposition.

Oh, so they did clarify that. Good, I got sick of hearing "you can hit and wound them normally but it doesn't say anything about allocating the wounds"

Yeah, bunch of other armies got FAQs, though Daemons got a really lacklustre one that doesn't really answer any of their main questions. Interestingly, it seems that GW have finally given definite rulings on things like Imhotek's lightning and Njal's tempest thingy hitting flyers, and whether being removed from play counts a being removed as a casualty.

[t⊗theark]

Hmmm, might make my spine fist distraction tunnel swarm better.

[strikeblaze]

Q: Are Drop pods and the units embarked upon them considered to be entering play from Reserves when deploying using the Drop Pod Assault special rule? (p69)
A: Yes. Aside from the exceptions specified by the Drop Pod Assault special rule, these units are considered to be entering play from Reserves as normal, meaning, for example, that models benefitting from the Interceptor special rule may use this to make Shooting attacks at a newly arrived Drop Pod or the squad that has disembarked from it.

Interceptor just got alot better, at the same time, this example can also be used in line with other methods of which a units are transported together from reserves, such as spores or outflanking rhino's so long as the transported unit is actually viable to be shot (such as Quad gun A pops rhino, Quad Gun B then shoots disembarked squad)

Also apparently Tau Crisis Suits can actually carry 3 on the same non TL weapon (though only able to be fire 2 of them at a time). This means Twin Non TL Plasma rifles anyone?

[maugrim]

The problem with the Swarms wasn't the rules - it was that people weren't reading them. And they haven't changed since 5th edition, so its a long standing problem. Of course, not many people use Swarms so it didn't come up often.

Vulnerable to Blasts/Templates is one of the most misread rules in the entire book. It causes you to double **unsaved** wounds. One of the biggest problems is people doubling the wounds *before* you allocate the wounds and roll your saves. Now, many of the weapons shooting at them will ignore their armour saves (and the templates ignore their cover saves), but not always - so its important to keep in mind. Because if you walk through the rules in the correct order it is only once a wound is applied to a specific model (and it fails its save) that the model takes an additional wound (which you don't get to take a save on since its an unsaved wound already).

If you follow the allocation/wound rules properly it becomes obvious - why would that extra wound on that specific model (which has already taken a saving throw) suddenly transfer to a different model? It can't, regardless if its an ID wound or not, because it has already been Allocated.