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Post by Squire on Jan 30, 2013 12:41:41 GMT
It's weird... But the "worse" a model is in game terms... The more I want to paint it. Some of it has to do with the fact that a lot of the bad models are my favourite (lictors, warriors, Hormagaunts) but I think it's mostly a strange compulsion to paint my models in order of least to most competitive... So I may end up painting 4 Hormagaunts after I finish up this aegis line, which may or may not take a while. After these blue sections I have the same amount of black sections to paint. I may stagger my models by painting 4 troops and then 1 elite or bigger sized model, we'll see. Either way, I'm surprised that I've gotten as far as I have with my models. I think I'm at, or close to the half way point, I never thought this day would come! That's very similar to how I paint. 4 gaunts, 4 gaunts then a medium sized or monstrous creature- then back to the gaunts. I feel like by painting the boring stuff I'm unlocking the chance to paint a warrior/carnifex etc. I also keep models I've painted and models I need to paint in boxes, so I lose track of how much still needs to be done. For some reason that helps. It takes me 10 hours to do four gaunts so it's pretty demotivating seeing a big pile of grey plastic
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Post by zoat on Jan 30, 2013 15:07:28 GMT
The pyrovore looks very nice. Can't wait to see your monstrous creatures, those units are my favourites by far. But I agree with the hormagaunts and lictors, they should be better for that cool design. And I would keep an eye on updates, maybe the pyrovore is a must have for us in the next months. There has been some rumours. A friend of mine is a student of art and w40k-fan, too. Some time ago he complaint about the fact that all he does the whole day is painting, either on canvas or on plastic models. Now he seems to enjoy both as well a bit more. But what I want to say is, don't forget to take yourself some free time now and then. Nobody is pushing you to paint except for yourself. By the way, do you know the Thousand Sons? It's a chaos space marine legion covered in blue and gold. Another friend of mine has a very impressive army of them. So keep your colour scheme, it has proven to be great
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Post by Hive Carnithrope on Jan 30, 2013 17:53:40 GMT
I know the feeling when your studies get in the way of fun things, like painting, but at least your studies are actually painting! If you felt like you couldn't update this thread as much, why not post some of the non-wargaming stuff you do paint? I'm not sure what it is you paint, but I'm sure no one would complain seeing a drawing of some flowers among the Pyrovores and Dreadnoughts. You never know, we might even prefer Daffodils over hordes of greenskins. And the Pyrovore looks awesome too! Usually, I prefer a contrasting base to make the model stand out, but having it blue seems to work!
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Post by Xantige on Jan 31, 2013 0:34:15 GMT
@ squire - I can relate about the grey tide. It's kind of funny how much more motivation one can get with fewer minis to paint. But for me, there aren't that many boxes of minis lying around, just my tyrant and gargoyles. The rest is assembled, and aside from the Zoanthrope and Biovore, all my nids are primed and waiting. But I think the double 4 troop batch followed up by a hive guard or such, will help keep me motivated. zoat - painting minis is just funner than having to do anatomy sketches. Art blocks happen more often than 40k blocks. I have the problem of having to put my minis down to do things I ought to do if I want to be a good artist. But yes, I have heard of the thousand sons, and I really like the look of them. A friend of mine once said that I should somehow tie my nids fluff into the thousand sons. Hive Carnithrope - I'm not sure how much you guys would like my homework. I'm learning design art, not fine arts, so in colour theory, were not painting canvas, we're painting colour charts on plain paper, and occasionally we do a more imaginative project... But it's never about the end result, it's not about making art as you'd image it. The class is about learning to match a colour exactly to whatever you've been given, and how to match colours to create harmony, contrast, eye movement, rhythm, etc. what we make means nothing to what we learn. The design world is odd, and I don't know how much a non artist would see in the projects we do. A lot of our work looks easy, but the complexity lies in HOW we made it. I guess it'd be like if you painted a mini, and it only looked okay to everyone, but when you tell them you painted it blind and with your foot, it becomes a show of skill. But if you guys are still interested in seeing my work, I'll gladly show it. I resin ally wouldn't mind sharing as much of the knowledge I've learned from this colour theory class with the hive, I think it could help people become more sensitive to colour, and maybe help people come up with better colour schemes, and solutions to colour problems they may be having.
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Post by zoat on Jan 31, 2013 11:32:38 GMT
I'm becoming a digital media designer soon (by apprenticeship not by studies), and I know your field of work. Many times I would rather like to paint some tyranids in Photoshop than to design menu cards or flyers (though I made one for the GW store of a friend, that was fun). It's allways relaxing to do something by choice, not for work. I do relax a lot when assembling or painting miniatures Has someone posted kuler.adobe.com on this forum yet? That's the way to go for colour charts^^ I just recognized that you use complementary contrasts on your nids as well as I do. Golden/yellow carapaces to blue flesh is naturally appealing. With the red/brown and green of Hivefleet Zoat I try to do it alike. I should just push myself to paint more details, I'm much too lazy But I will do better on my next project: the Hierophant.
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Post by Xantige on Jan 31, 2013 19:54:39 GMT
I'm becoming a digital media designer soon (by apprenticeship not by studies), and I know your field of work. Many times I would rather like to paint some tyranids in Photoshop than to design menu cards or flyers (though I made one for the GW store of a friend, that was fun). It's allways relaxing to do something by choice, not for work. I do relax a lot when assembling or painting miniatures Has someone posted kuler.adobe.com on this forum yet? That's the way to go for colour charts^^ I just recognized that you use complementary contrasts on your nids as well as I do. Golden/yellow carapaces to blue flesh is naturally appealing. With the red/brown and green of Hivefleet Zoat I try to do it alike. I should just push myself to paint more details, I'm much too lazy But I will do better on my next project: the Hierophant. Nice to meet a fellow future designer! Honestly, I fluked out with my nids in terms of compliments. I did them before I knew anything about design like I do now. I think they compliment would have looked better if I'd gone for a more orangey-gold, but it's too late to change now, and I still utterly love my nids. I've bookmarked that colour link, I'll check it out when I have time! Until then, either today or tomorrow I'll maybe post a picture of one or two of the colour charts I've done, and if you guys like the, maybe I'll post more. For now though, I have to fly, I have 50+ pages to read in 3 hours before my class! Wish me luck! PS, Zoat, do you have pictures of your hive fleet?
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Post by zoat on Jan 31, 2013 20:58:46 GMT
50+ pages in 3 hours and I guess it's not a thrilling story like the Horus Heresy I am reading currently (in this case one will read up to 100 p in no time). Good luck to you! Final examinations are coming soon. It will be just the same with me then. On the hive I've uploaded some photos here and there, but not in a painting thread. It's nothing great to show though, I painted my first army really grubby. Maybe I'll start a thread during the work on my next models. But nonetheless, here is a pic of my league-army: dl.dropbox.com/u/29025647/P1030400.JPGYeah, the carapaces really need details
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Post by Xantige on Feb 3, 2013 4:01:52 GMT
50+ pages in 3 hours and I guess it's not a thrilling story like the Horus Heresy I am reading currently (in this case one will read up to 100 p in no time). Good luck to you! Final examinations are coming soon. It will be just the same with me then. On the hive I've uploaded some photos here and there, but not in a painting thread. It's nothing great to show though, I painted my first army really grubby. Maybe I'll start a thread during the work on my next models. But nonetheless, here is a pic of my league-army: dl.dropbox.com/u/29025647/P1030400.JPGYeah, the carapaces really need details They're not that bad! The advantage to painting fast is you can get more stuff on the table quickly. I can only imagine how many months it'd take me to assemble, magnetize and paint a Trygon or Tervigon to use and how long it'd take for all the gaunts needed for the latter... my army will take years to reach a big size, and by then most of the models I have may be overpriced or nerfed. Thankfully I love the painting more than competitive gaming. It's been a while, I've sort of been busy. I've been feeling lower than usual, but I think I've lost the painting bug too. I've been more into reading about fluff, specifically on Space Marine Iconology and other markings. But I've done some work all the same. Here's my finished Pyrovore! The weather was finally nice enough to varnish her: This lighting is terrible, but you may notice a slight shine to the model now that intensifies the blue-green . And while I was spraying, I got these models sprayed. The picture is aweful because of the black paint, but hopefully you can tell what's what: Here's a picture of my Pyro next to my Bio, the size difference always boggles me... I've also been working on my Aegis Barricades, and I think they're finished at this point, but I put off varnishing them because I wanted to get your opinions on the bullet holes... but first, the pictures: I tried to make the bullet holes appear grey like concrete, with a light blue edging to look like light, or maybe just emphasis on where the edges of paint and concrete meet... but I don't know if that's what it looks like. In the images it looks mainly like a light blue spot, but in real life it looks greyish, but more ghostly and incoporeal than like concrete... Perhaps the grey needs to be darker? I didn't use any references, so i don't actually know what bulletholes in concrete look like (I know! I know! I should have!) Anyways, to end the post off, here's some silly pictures of my Pyro and the walls: Who needs Quad-guns when you have a Pyrovore?
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Post by zoat on Feb 3, 2013 15:06:15 GMT
Hey thanks, Xantige You definitely hit the point, as my first army my nids are collected and also painted to play. You collect to paint and that's all fine It's the same with my girlfriend, she has a nice army of Skaven but just had a single game in one year. I like your finished pyrovore, the base is really cool. I took my biovore on a 40mm-base, I think I should change that.
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Post by Davor on Feb 3, 2013 21:11:53 GMT
I quit. First my colour scheme was similar to Quinns, and I can't compare to him so I changed my scheme. Now it's the same as yours, and I can't compare to you either. So I guess I quit.
Nah I don't, but not sure what to do now LOL.
Great job, keep it up.
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Post by Xantige on Feb 3, 2013 23:46:30 GMT
Hey thanks, Xantige You definitely hit the point, as my first army my nids are collected and also painted to play. You collect to paint and that's all fine It's the same with my girlfriend, she has a nice army of Skaven but just had a single game in one year. I like your finished pyrovore, the base is really cool. I took my biovore on a 40mm-base, I think I should change that. Sometimes I wish I'd come up with an easier colour scheme. These days though, I don't feel like that much anymore. I have so little time to game except when I'm off school, that it doesn't matter how fast I paint, I can't game. If anything, painting slow means I don't have to buy lots of models every month. The unpainted ones I have are enough to keep me busy for a while. They might only form a slightly decent army at best, right now, but my nids always turn heads and get compliments. One day I'll have Tervigons and Trygons... or whatever is the best model to have in the future. I quit. First my colour scheme was similar to Quinns, and I can't compare to him so I changed my scheme. Now it's the same as yours, and I can't compare to you either. So I guess I quit. Nah I don't, but not sure what to do now LOL. Great job, keep it up. Did you purposely take inspiration from Evan and me? Either way I want to see your painted models now. Well, you could always try a new colour scheme you haven't seen done before (rather hard with nids I find) or pick a scheme you love, or toss your favorite colours on them. Getting good at painting takes time, and lots of patience. To have a well painted, detailed army requires a lot of painting time that few people have or wish to do. There's nothing wrong with an army that has two colours and a dip in quickshade you know . It'll take me years to have a decent army unless I dedicate myself to it like Evan, and I have other hobbies and commitments that come before painting 40k.
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Post by Davor on Feb 4, 2013 0:35:39 GMT
I don't want to quit lol. I think I will use Evans, skin colour and Xan's carapace colour. See how that turns out.
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Post by FTGTEvan on Feb 4, 2013 13:32:06 GMT
I think the bullet holes work. I'm used to seeing them darker on models, but I think it works. Googling bullet holes in concrete got mixed results, but I think this one reflects yours well: (more here: moxie.danchilton.com/phlogs/10)There are some in the google search with a darker center, but I kind of like yours as is, since I feel it indicates the toughness of the wall: bullets take a couple small bits out, but don't penetrate the wall all that much. Just my $0.02. Looks great!
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Post by Xantige on Feb 7, 2013 5:44:55 GMT
Well it's been a while guys! I've been wrapped up in school work and spending me fleeting moments of free time playing either fallout new Vegas or Pokemon diamond over 5-10 minute increments. I'm not big into Pokemon anymore, but having a portable game I can play for mere minutes and still make progress has been great for keeping my mood up! I haven't done much model painting, but I have done a bit. I finished one half of my aegis line, and now today I sprayed them with krypton finish, and I've started work in the second half. It's at this point that I'm realizing another reason I didn't make one of these blog threads earlier... Aside from the fact it takes me a long time to get some projects done... Often times the projects are boring or would get repetitive. I understand that on a tyranid forum, painting an aegis line isn't all that interesting, but even if I painted batches of Genestealers and Hormagaunts, people would quickly lose interest if I didn't change it up. i can even see breaks of painting hive guard and other gribblies eventually getting boring if I've painted them before. Really though, I can't get around that at this point, all I can do is hope people check in once in a blue moon to see if I've done anything interesting of late, or hope for someone so dedicated or entranced with my painting that they don't care if all they see for two months are 8 Hormagaunts. Which seems unlikely Anyways, you guys have a good night, and a good time until I have something to post again. I have to get back to an insanely hard to follow reading on the philosophy of inanimate objects.... Among other readings. Wish me luck.
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Post by zoat on Feb 7, 2013 22:04:31 GMT
You also play Pokemon? Little by little I'm becoming a fan of yours At times I'm not crazy about nids I'm crazy about the other little monsters, so fierce that I just finished a fanfiction with over a million words last year. So you can be sure I'll come by from time to time and see what you've painted, even if its just Hormagaunts and Genestealers (which are cool models alike). And nids can use an aegis line as well (but sadly not the weapon emplacements), so thats no problem with me either^^ I've seen it on the table just grey or black until I came here, so yours are really refreshing!
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