My army

[Brent]

I was just wondering, see my tyranid army isnt based on quantity, it is based on quality(but still with some close combat power). Is that a good idea because my brothers have a ultramarines and tau army with lots of firepower. I dont have any pics yet but hopefully by the end of next year i will have completed my army.

[n00b1n8R]

why is this in the painting thread?

but anyway, quantity over quality is generally the way to go with nids.
the basic unit isn't that great (unless you taking geanstealers, but they have no shooting at all) so the more wounds you have, the better.

the only things that it's really worth the points to "pimp out" are tyrants and fex's. the troops don't really need more than a couple of points extra maximum (what's not to like about a S4 reroll to wound gun, on a fleeting unit that is 6pts a model?), and then only to improve them in there intended field of use.

for instance, the only thing i even consider taking on a geanstealer (except a brood lord's ret) are scything talons. the reason is because it makes them better at what they are intended to do (kill stuff in CC in this case). therefore, i don't see the use in giving adrenal glands to termagants (Tgaunts) as that only makes them better in CC which is not where i want them to be.

the only exception to where it may be wise to equip a unit for both CC and shooting is when taking shooty warriors (though not many are fans of them)

as you bro has a shooty army and a jack-of-all-trades army, it would be best to make your army non-specifically oriented if you intend to use the same list for both his armys. if you wanted to have a list targeted directly at one of the armys, then i would recommend fast units that are good in CC against the tau, and a army with a decent amount of rending claws and mb a sniper fex with a barbed strangler (BS on a fex = instant death to most things, not just SM's)

of course, not having much battle experience myself, i'm going by common sense with most of that.

man, that's alot more than i originally had... (i've edited in alot)

n00b out

[Koyori]

Dun listen to n00b its fully posible to chose quality over quantity. After all that is what a zilla army is quality over quantity.

[n00b1n8R]

um... why not listen to n00b?

I don't class a nid zilla list as quality over quantity, but as a "OMGWTFBBQ HOW AM I MENT TO TAKE ON THAT???" over quantity list of intimidation and doom.

there not that hard for some opponents to take if they can target a decent amount of there fire power at a fex/tyrant (2 max) a turn.

because they are awesome against some army's and (please do not swear) against others, i would class them as cheese. not a well rounded list that can take on most comers (and by my personal definition, not cheesy).

therefore, i recommend a quantity over quality general list capable of taking most opponents on. not a hit or miss army like a nid zilla list (not that they can't be effective, quite to the contrary)

it's ulitmatley up to personal taste. i like a general list, others (like koyori) like a more specific list with more of a theme.
n00b out

[hivefleetsiafu]

i think it should either be a zilla army or a quantity over quality army, most other army plans dont do so well ;D

[minimodeller]

Think it was Stalin who said that Quantity has a quality all of its own...

mm

[Pheonix]

well said mini modeller

[Scizor]

you can also make a army in the middle of the two, not a horde, not nidzilla but a ballanced mix

[Assimilator]

hmmm it could go either two ways. it could pay off or not. simple