Swarmlord & Biovores + Others

[shadowfinder]

A combo I have been looking at is taking the Swarmlord with a normal/flying Tyrant. Costly but the CP playing is very nice.

Swarmlords new rule can make stratagem usage stop in the middle of the game when combat is most likely to happen if he is in it or close by.

With a small or big unit of tyrant guard he should now be bigger issue.

If you play without T-guard to keep cost down that works two just need to play cagey with him.

Biovores are still useful for a lot of missions them even make fixed an option I feel. the no advance is still very useful too on the mines.

Is deathleaper still a auto include for you all. While i like the -1 to rolls i feel the 6inch range is not as good anymore.
I feel a third Neurolictor is better and the battle shock you can pick where at range and he has synapse now to.

[piersonsmuppet]

I’d still say Deathleaper is more valuable. You can hit multiple units with battle shock with DL at -2 if set up properly. Neurolictor gains Synapse for a -1, but I find my Neurolitors force tests outside 6” more often than not.

I think a 1/1 split is the must take. More Neurolictors are nice, but the price difference in favor of Lictors even more now make them a better take for scoring imo.

[gauntlet]

I thought this was going to be How the Biovore and Sporemines, can benefit from Strategems in various Detachments and how the Swarmlord is better than Lethal Hits and free strats from Hive Tyrant?

[piersonsmuppet]

Uncapped +1CP to opponent’s strats w/in 12”… honestly SL and a Hive Tyrant are really close. I think the Tyrant is more niche now (still a great take in almost any list), but melee lists will favor SL.

[purestrain]

Jun 28, 2024 22:08:53 GMT piersonsmuppet said:

Uncapped +1CP to opponent’s strats w/in 12”… honestly SL and a Hive Tyrant are really close. I think the Tyrant is more niche now (still a great take in almost any list), but melee lists will favor SL.

He's too weak to be going into melee with our other brutes, and it's capped by being 12.1 away.

If you are in melee with swarmy youre already losing lmao.

[piersonsmuppet]

Eh, I’ve had two games so far and SL worked well; denied Redeemer overwatch and a rr on the charge, and forced decisions between a few strats instead of the opponent getting to use both. This was into two different versions of Space Wolf pressure.

I don’t see shooty lists being too big of a problem either. Pariah terrain feels more dense than Leviathan, and some target saturation helps SL live. I ran it with 3x Tyrant guard and they were not a big priority threatening a functional T8/1+ with cover and Nexus AoC, or T8/5++ vs big guns. Choosing between that or the other Monster which was on an Objective, my opponent had to mostly ignore SL with guns to prevent scoring.

If a meta does become dominant with shooty armies, I agree SL may not have a place. Against armies that want to be within 1” of you, SL can force them choose between offense or defense. I think you always take at least 3 TG now as well, they are worth it to protect the CP gen and CP tax.