Jumping into nids biggly

[voidshielddown]

Hi,

2024 and 10th edition are gonna be 'nid time for me, so I'm starting a very 1st list.

I want to do Crusher Stampede because I really.like the BIG nids, and it will be a nice change of pace from play small elite armies.

I tend to play casually, though having a competitive option for guys to practice against is a plus


That being said:
2k

Old one eye
2x carnaifexes woth crusher claws

Neurotyrant
Warlord
Ominous Presence
6 tyrant guard
-2 w/scathing Claws
-2 w/ whips and swords
-2 w/ crushing claws

Heirophant

2 tyranofex w/ Rupture cannons

Thoughts?

Thanks

[piersonsmuppet]

Prob be a fun list to play but it is probably going to get run over by anything remotely competitive. You need at least some rippers in the list to accomplish secondaries, some Lictors/Neurolictors would be better.

[voidshielddown]

What would you recommend dropping for rippers and lictors?
The neurotyant w/bodyguard or a tyranofex?

[piersonsmuppet]

Prob just drop an amount of Tyrant Guard you feel comfortable with; drop 3 for 1x Lictor/Neurolictor and 1x1 Ripper Swarms, drop 6 for 2x Lictor/Neruolictor and 3x1 Ripper Swarms.

Also, Acid Spray might be better on the Tfexes; less power into big units but you can threaten a lot more profiles in your turn and the opponent’s. Mostly a flex option though based on what your local scene is like.

[purestrain]

Crusher doesn't work with carnifexes, specifically because it counts the unit not the individual model. Therefore you need to lose and entire carnifex to even gain +1 hit and can never gain +1 to wound.

All heavier monsters benefit immensely from losing a singular wound and keep up in pace when losing more than half (there is a sweet spot for most monsters just before they hit the -1 hit where they are +1hit and wound)

Overlapping amounts of models works in crusher, duplicates is how I roll.

[voidshielddown]

The plan was old one-eye with the carnifexes, even without the crusher benefit, I expect that brick of chiton to both draw a lot of attention and be able to smash effectively.

Updating the list, based on suggestions (and model availability)

Old One-eye
- warlord
2x Carnifexes with crushing claws and devourerers
2x tyranifexes woth acid spray
Heirophant
20 hormagaunts riding the heirophant
6x Van Ryan's Leapers
1x ripper swarm

[piersonsmuppet]

Dropping the Neurotyrant completely is probably a mistake, you pretty much need it since your list has no other synapse. You don’t want the Phant to fail battle-shock too often.

[purestrain]

Hierophant crusher lists are incredibly hilarious, as you just charge across the field spraying death until the finally kill it...

Then you auto explode inside their lines.

I love big bugs

[dkng]

Nov 15, 2023 13:21:39 GMT purestrain said:

Hierophant crusher lists are incredibly hilarious, as you just charge across the field spraying death until the finally kill it...

Then you auto explode inside their lines.

I love big bugs

Shame there’s no way to reroll the Deadly Demise roll

[purestrain]

Nov 15, 2023 17:03:12 GMT dkng said:

Nov 15, 2023 13:21:39 GMT purestrain said:

Hierophant crusher lists are incredibly hilarious, as you just charge across the field spraying death until the finally kill it...

Then you auto explode inside their lines.

I love big bugs

Shame there’s no way to reroll the Deadly Demise roll

I wish you could reroll the damage it deals, but just for clarities sake, there is a strat to auto demise for crusher monsters, if that's what you meant

[dkng]

Nov 15, 2023 18:18:48 GMT purestrain said:

Nov 15, 2023 17:03:12 GMT dkng said:

Shame there’s no way to reroll the Deadly Demise roll

I wish you could reroll the damage it deals, but just for clarities sake, there is a strat to auto demise for crusher monsters, if that's what you meant

Nah, what I meant is the damage roll, I know there is the strat to auto-explode

[mattblowers]

Nov 15, 2023 13:21:39 GMT purestrain said:

Hierophant crusher lists are incredibly hilarious, as you just charge across the field spraying death until the finally kill it...

Then you auto explode inside their lines.

I love big bugs

How has it been working for you? I love our big badies as well, but they seem a sub-optimal choice currently.

[purestrain]

Nov 21, 2023 13:57:55 GMT mattblowers said:

Nov 15, 2023 13:21:39 GMT purestrain said:

Hierophant crusher lists are incredibly hilarious, as you just charge across the field spraying death until the finally kill it...

Then you auto explode inside their lines.

I love big bugs

How has it been working for you? I love our big badies as well, but they seem a sub-optimal choice currently.

More and more people stuff anti tank into almost anything they can in my meta, simply because my main crusher list is very tough to force back without it.

It's been a week or so since I played, so I think I'll go scare some more people.

Knights are a horrible match up, they just slap monsters around. Some chaos armies can do work, like not optimal for tac lists but skewed lists like all the terminators can hit back and take some.

Sisters with a lot of those darn tanks can be bad, but once you hit their lines they crumble.

Almost ever marine player I faced since the codex didn't know what to do except the space wolves guy I face, he's Def not a coward and gets work done ramming into my lines.

All in all its on the decline, but if you can have fun with it that's all that really matters, isn't it?

[dkng]

Now that they switched to AT go play with a swarm list XD

[purestrain]

Nov 23, 2023 16:14:10 GMT dkng said:

Now that they switched to AT go play with a swarm list XD

I prefer Vanguard Onslaught, makes them even less happy