Tyrannocyte - Flame Bomb

[chillingworth]

Playing against the silver horde (Necrons maxing out at lest one warrior blob). The blob will no dout be put on the front line to take a central objective as early as possible. Anything stopping me dropping a Tyrannocyte with two units of three Pyrovores 9" away on my move and flaming the buggery out of them? Plus do we think its enough to take down all 20 warriors to stop them coming back?

[hivefleetkerrigan]

You can do that. There's nothing in the rules stopping you. As a warning, they could overwatch (I think they could attack the pyros).

On average, it looks like 7.7 necrons warriors killed:
Number of shots per model is d6+1, so 13 on average for 3
Wounding on 3s + rerolls is 8/9 for wounds
Saves are at an AP-1 so a 5+
13*8/9*2/3=7.7

[icetyrant]

Above (and my math went wrong )

[mattblowers]

My first thought was: Yes. The t-cyte can only transport one unit.

Actually looking at the rules though, the only restriction I see is that a t-cyte can only have 1 monstrous creature with 12 wounds or less. I think your plan works mechanically. I doubt that 4 pyros reliably pick up 20 warriors.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Average for 4 pyros is 18 shots, leading to 10.7 dead. I think opening with a volley of zoans (for blast) then hitting with pyros will do the trick.

[gauntlet]

The weak part of the tactics is that the Tyrannocyte costs more than the pyrovores.
For a similar cost you get.

6 Tyranid Warriors = 9.4 kills at range of 24"
or 8 kills at a range of 36"

workings
Venom Canon 2.1 kills
Barbed Strangler 1.8 kills
Death Spitter 0.8 kills
Total: 4.7 kills

[purestrain]

Zoans don't need the help. A zoanthrope squad starts off with 24 shots then you add the 6d3 when shooting at a 20 man squad

[gauntlet]

The biggest advantage of the Tyrannocyte and Pyrovores is that the Necron Warriors can only move up 9" their turn.

What would happen if you deepstrike the pyrovores behind the necron warriors in their back field?
Do they only move forwards 5" and shoot backwards? Or do they advance 5+d6" and ignore the pyrvores and a charge from Tyrannocyte.

[dkng]

Oct 17, 2023 15:04:53 GMT purestrain said:

Zoans don't need the help. A zoanthrope squad starts off with 24 shots then you add the 6d3 when shooting at a 30 man squad

20 man
Assuming no buffs, Zoans will avarage 36 shots, 24 hits, 16 wounds, then saves on 6s. Not THAT great.

[gauntlet]

Silly Games Workshop.

In the same way that Termagants do not have the Synapse keyword, but do have the Faction: Synapse. So Termagants don't benefit from Synapse leadership ability by themselves.

In the same way Necron Warriors do not have the Reanimation Protocols keyword, but do have the Faction: Reanimation Protocols. So does that mean Necron Warriors cannot use Reanimation Protocols gain wounds ability by themselves?

Silly.

[chillingworth]

Oct 17, 2023 15:30:01 GMT gauntlet said:

Silly Games Workshop.

In the same way that Termagants do not have the Synapse keyword, but do have the Faction: Synapse. So Termagants don't benefit from Synapse leadership ability by themselves.

In the same way Necron Warriors do not have the Reanimation Protocols keyword, but do have the Faction: Reanimation Protocols. So does that mean Necron Warriors cannot use Reanimation Protocols gain wounds ability by themselves?

Silly.

Oooh that would be a game changer. Concentrate on the character leading the squad and remove their ability to reanimate. Could this be true?.. no. Reanimation Protocol is lore, all units benefit.

[gauntlet]

Oct 17, 2023 16:57:12 GMT chillingworth said:

Oct 17, 2023 15:30:01 GMT gauntlet said:

Silly Games Workshop.

In the same way that Termagants do not have the Synapse keyword, but do have the Faction: Synapse. So Termagants don't benefit from Synapse leadership ability by themselves.

In the same way Necron Warriors do not have the Reanimation Protocols keyword, but do have the Faction: Reanimation Protocols. So does that mean Necron Warriors cannot use Reanimation Protocols gain wounds ability by themselves?

Silly.

Oooh that would be a game changer. Concentrate on the character leading the squad and remove their ability to reanimate. Could this be true?.. no. Reanimation Protocol is lore, all units benefit.

Nobody anywhere would contemplate that Necron Warriors do not have gain wounds ability, despite rules as written. It's just silly wording contrary to what everybody knows about the army.

You should ignore my joke.