Vanguard Avant-garde

[dkng]

I’m trying to figure out a Vanguard Onslaught list with the models I have. So far I have:

Deathleaper
Neurotyrant with Neuronode (sit back, give Synapse)
Parasite
Flyrant with Chameleonic
2x10 Gargs
3 Lictors
2 Neurolictors
3x1 Swarms
2x6 Zoans

That’s 1470 points and I dont know where to go from here so that’s why I’m here.
I sadly do not have any Trygons or Mawlocs.
2 Rupturefexes to try to fend off heavy armor plus a stray Pyro?
Exo + OOE with 2 quad DSpitter Carnifexes?
Go MSU with VRLs and Raveners. I can only field 6 of each so there still 230 points to spare.
Drop the Parasite (I really like him) and go with double Exo and double Malceptors?
Plz help

[piersonsmuppet]

Should prob add 1-2 GS blocks w/ Broodlord. What do scout units hate? Shooting. Vanguard can give a whole unit Lone Operative. Gotta run at least 1, with an optional second unit in reserves to rapid ingress >12” from shooting. Neuronode gives you the flexibility to put both on the line, and pull one back to reserves while still leaving reserves open for both Zoan Units.

All this CP might make SL a good addition, I still think SL is pretty much an auto include for Nids.

[N.I.B.]

Anyone a paying member of Art of War, care to post John Lennon's Vanguard list he used in the battle report?

[niiai]

Sept 13, 2023 6:01:27 GMT N.I.B. said:

Anyone a paying member of Art of War, care to post John Lennon's Vanguard list he used in the battle report?

Oh please share.

Here is my attempt at a vanguard list. I have not tried it yet.

army test (1995 points)
Tyranids
Strike Force (2000 points)
Vanguard Onslaught


CHARACTER

Deathleaper (70 points)
• 1x Lictor claws and talons

Neurotyrant (135 points)
• 1x Neurotyrant claws and lashes
1x Psychic scream
• Enhancement: Neuronode

Winged Hive Tyrant (225 points)
• 1x Monstrous bonesword and lash whip
1x Tyrant talons
• Enhancement: Chameleonic

Winged Tyranid Prime (65 points)
• 1x Prime talons

Winged Tyranid Prime (65 points)
• 1x Prime talons

Winged Tyranid Prime (65 points)
• 1x Prime talons


OTHER DATASHEETS

Biovores (75 points)
• 1x Chitin-barbed limbs
1x Spore Mine launcher

Lictor (60 points)
• 1x Lictor claws and talons

Lictor (60 points)
• 1x Lictor claws and talons

Neurolictor (65 points)
• 1x Piercing claws and talons

Ripper Swarms (20 points)
• 1x Chitinous claws and teeth

Ripper Swarms (20 points)
• 1x Chitinous claws and teeth

Ripper Swarms (20 points)
• 1x Chitinous claws and teeth

Tyranid Warriors with Ranged Bio-weapons (140 points)
• 1x Tyranid Prime
• 1x Devourer
1x Tyranid Warrior claws and talons
• 5x Tyranid Warrior
• 2x Devourer
2x Tyranid Warrior claws and talons

Tyranid Warriors with Ranged Bio-weapons (140 points)
• 1x Tyranid Prime
• 1x Devourer
1x Tyranid Warrior claws and talons
• 5x Tyranid Warrior
• 2x Devourer
2x Tyranid Warrior claws and talons

Tyranid Warriors with Ranged Bio-weapons (140 points)
• 1x Tyranid Prime
• 1x Devourer
1x Tyranid Warrior claws and talons
• 5x Tyranid Warrior
• 2x Devourer
2x Tyranid Warrior claws and talons

Von Ryan’s Leapers (150 points)
• 6x Von Ryan’s Leaper
• 3x Leaper’s talons

Von Ryan’s Leapers (150 points)
• 6x Von Ryan’s Leaper
• 3x Leaper’s talons

Zoanthropes (110 points)
• 1x Neurothrope
• 1x Chitinous claws and teeth
1x Warp Blast
• 2x Zoanthrope
• 2x Chitinous claws and teeth
2x Warp Blast

Zoanthropes (110 points)
• 1x Neurothrope
• 1x Chitinous claws and teeth
1x Warp Blast
• 2x Zoanthrope
• 2x Chitinous claws and teeth
2x Warp Blast

Zoanthropes (110 points)
• 1x Neurothrope
• 1x Chitinous claws and teeth
1x Warp Blast
• 2x Zoanthrope
• 2x Chitinous claws and teeth
2x Warp Blast

[dkng]

Ok so with the models I have I can do the following:


Deathleaper (70 Points)
Parasite of Mortrex (110 Points) • Warlord, Enhancements: Neuronode
The Swarmlord (270 Points)
Winged Hive Tyrant (225 Points) • 1x Monstrous bonesword and lash whip 1x Tyrant talons • Enhancements: Chameleonic
2x10 Gargoyles (150 Points)
2x Exocrine (270 Points)
2x Lictor (120 Points)
2x Neurolictor (130 Points)
3x1 Ripper Swarms (60 Points)
2x3 Von Ryan’s Leapers (150 points)
2x6 Zoanthropes (440 Points)

TOTAL 1995

Any suggestions besides Broodlord + Stealers?

[nidzy]

Sept 17, 2023 14:37:44 GMT dkng said:

Ok so with the models I have I can do the following:


Deathleaper (70 Points)
Parasite of Mortrex (110 Points) • Warlord, Enhancements: Neuronode
The Swarmlord (270 Points)
Winged Hive Tyrant (225 Points) • 1x Monstrous bonesword and lash whip 1x Tyrant talons • Enhancements: Chameleonic
2x10 Gargoyles (150 Points)
2x Exocrine (270 Points)
2x Lictor (120 Points)
2x Neurolictor (130 Points)
3x1 Ripper Swarms (60 Points)
2x3 Von Ryan’s Leapers (150 points)
2x6 Zoanthropes (440 Points)

TOTAL 1995

Any suggestions besides Broodlord + Stealers?

I think gargoyles are really strong in this book and if you have more you can add I’d drop a loan lone op or two for them, even 3 zoan to 3x3 with them. Deepstrike and either advance and charge or even just move after advance and shoot with their ability is really good, especially coupled with OC 2. I’ve only dealt with this on GW terrain patterns but it’s good.

[dkng]

After some trial and error I came up with a mix of traditional IF units with VO toys. The list can still play the aggressive VO style in the first turns of the battle chocking the enemy while retaining some firepower against heavier targets that just want to waltz in and do the brawling.

VanDamme (2000 Points)

Tyranids
Vanguard Onslaught
Strike Force (2000 Points)

Deathleaper (70 Points)

Neurotyrant (125 Points)
• Warlord
• Hunting Grounds

Winged Hive Tyrant (225 Points)
1x Monstrous bonesword and lash whip
Chameleonic

Winged Tyranid Prime (95 Points) Neuronode

Gargoyles (75 Points)
Gargoyles (75 Points)
Biovores (75 Points)
Exocrine (135 Points)
Exocrine (135 Points)
Lictor (60 Points)
Lictor (60 Points)
Maleceptor (170 Points)
Neurolictor (65 Points)
Neurolictor (65 Points)
Pyrovore (30 Points)
Pyrovore (30 Points)
6 Tyranid Warriors with Ranged Bio-weapons (140 Points)
• 2x Barbed strangler
2x Deathspitter
2x Venom cannon
6 Von Ryan’s Leapers (150 Points)
6 Zoanthropes (220 Points)

[piersonsmuppet]

I think changing the Ranged Warriors and a Pyrovore to Melee Warriors would help the list, the Twin Linked is important for taking advantage of the +1 to-wound.

[dkng]

This is the list I plan on using. From the models I own I think this is the best I can do. Should have all the tools needed apart from decent AT.

Vang1.2 (1995 Points)

Deathleaper (70 Points)
Neurotyrant (125 Points): Hunting Grounds
Winged Hive Tyrant (225 Points)
• 1x Monstrous bonesword and lash whip
1x Tyrant talons
• Enhancements: Chameleonic
Winged Tyranid Prime (95 Points): Neuronode
Winged Tyranid Prime (65 Points)
10 Gargoyles (75 Points)
10 Gargoyles (75 Points)
Biovore (75 Points)
Exocrine (135 Points)
Exocrine (135 Points)
Lictor (60 Points)
Neurolictor (65 Points)
Neurolictor (65 Points)
Ripper Swarms (20 Points)
6 Tyranid Warriors with Melee Bio-weapons (170 Points)
6 Tyranid Warriors with Melee Bio-weapons (170 Points)
6 Von Ryan’s Leapers (150 Points)
6 Zoanthropes (220 Points)