1000 point 10e List

[manxman5]

Long time lurker, first time poster!

What are peoples thoughts for this 1000 point 10th edition list? I will be playing against either Orks, T'au or Deamons. 

Characters

Hive Tyrant - Warlord - 220 points

Winged Tyranid Prime - Enhancement Adaptive Biology - 105 points

Battleline

Gargoyles x 10 - 75 points

Hormagaunts x 10 - 70 points

Other Datasheets

Barbgaunts x 5 - 50 points

Barbgaunts x 5 - 50 points

Hive Guard x 3 - Shockcannons - 100 points

Screamer Killer - 180 points

Von Ryan's Leapers x 3 - 75 points

Von Ryan's Leapers x 3 - 75 points

1000 point total.

What do we think folks? Anything I should swap or things to consider? This is my first 10e game so feedback appreciated. 

[nidsallday]

from what i gathered so far:
winged prime is not worth its points
hive guard (as you mention shockcannons) are not very reliable anti tank (zoans do a better job)
screamer killer is considered over-costed

other suggestions, again what i gathered so far:
haruspex is assumed to be one of the best cost / performance units we have
trygon with rapid ingress should do very good
carnifexes (with all the free options) should be ok
bivores for moveblock and secondaries maybe could be nice

maybe cut 1x von ryans leapers unit, the screamer killer, hive guard and winged prime in favor of, amongst other, haruspex / trygon / carnifex / biovores.


regarding 1k point, my current plan is to go super heavy into carni/ooe:

warlord: ooe as leader (140pts)
attached to 2x carnis (250pts)

2x 5 barbgaunts (100pts)
3x 1 biovore (120pts)
2x 3 ranged warriors (140pts)
1x 3 zoans (90pts)
1x exocrine (135pts)

as this is planned to used in a more casual setting maybe a pyrovore makes it in too for "ignore cover" for the other shooting, but this gets the list to 1005pts
but this list lacks haruspex (as i dont own any), relies on biovore spores to score secondaries, and there are no cp-manipulation tyrants.

[manxman5]

Cheers for the feedback Nidsallday.

I can drop the Von Ryan's and Screamer killer and look to bring perhaps 3 x Zoans.

Only have the 1 Biovore so i think i will give that a miss.

I was hoping the Winged Prime would have been useful while leading the Gargoyles.

Will do some more changes tonight and have another go for sure, cheers!

[nidsallday]

welcome bud
my group doesnt play a whole lot atm, but i'll try to remember to drop by and give further comments on 1k lists once i have more experience (be it selfmade or seen/read somewhere else)

[manxman5]

So had a relook at what I had and i am hoping this list may be be a bit better.

Characters

Hive Tyrant - 220 points
Tervigon - with Adaptive Biology - 225 points

Battleline -

20 x Termagants - 120 points
20 x Termagants - 120 points

Other Data Sheets

5 x Barbgaunts - 50 points
5 x Barbgaunts - 50 points
1 x Exocrine - 135 points
3 x Von Ryan's Leapers

Total points: 995 

My thought process is that of course the Tervigon provides good support to one the Termagants, while the other Termagant unit can shield the Hive Tyrant.

With the Exocrine allowing Symbiotic Targeting to gain the re-roll 1's on a targeted unit being really helpful for the Termagants or Barbgaunts.

I did consider the Zoans however just felt if they get involved in melee they will just be stuck considering they can't psychic in combat now. 

[nidsallday]

for a 1k game hordes might be viable. i like that you went all-in, i just hope that its not sunk cost and hordes suck also in 1k, but gotta see, might be great board-control (mostly depends if opponent is capable of removing a whole 20 gant unit in one go, if not tervi and revive strat might do great work).

just one remark: you mention gants shielding tyrant. guess you mean shielding in terms of body blocking so no melee can reach him? because tyrant cant attach to gants.
another remark: if you go heavy horde venomthropes, psychophage and zoans might suit you very good because of auras (cover and -1 to hit, 6++, 6+++).

i would be very interessted to hear how this list worked for you

[manxman5]

I feel that for 120 points for 20 Termagants is not too bad, i even considered dropping the Hive tyrant and going with two Tervigons, something i may still consider.

Yes you are right, would be a melee shield rather than attaching to Hive tyrant, seems odd that a Tervigon can't lead Termagants will admit!

So i have Psychophage and the Zoans, so that is something i can look at too.

Will give an update how the game goes tomorrow anyhow!

[manxman5]

So the game is over and it was Tyranid victory against Deamons of Khorne!

So I did in the end run two Tervigons on each flank, with a unit of Termagants on inside of them both.

The Barbgaunts did their job of holding my home objective and disrupting those pesky daemons allowing me to run all about the board.

Zoanthropes also did fairly decent.

The real stand out however was the Psychophage, who thanks to the 5+ feel no pain absolutely tanked! It was involved in combat from my turn 2 (i went second) and i did not lose it until turn , held up 3 enemy units and dished out some pain in return!

Won 35 points to 27, so a nice little intro into 10th, really enjoyed some of the auras and effects. Also taking the Hive Predators hyper adaption was a phenomenal choice.