Toxicrene footprint

[hivefleetkerrigan]

I just got a toxicrene and the footprint on the tentacles is HUGE!! Its about 9 inches from tip to tip. This doesn't include the footprint of the model from the nose to the tail. How can you play the toxicrene on terrain heavy tables?

Right now, I'm thinking I'd have to run the model sideways so it won't catch on terrain. Any advice would be appreciated!

[TheDeepestShadow]

So I did in fact bring a Toxicrene to LVO this year, and was the one who asked the question on the event FAQ for how to handle it. The judges ruled that the tentacles only matter for where it the model can be placed, but to use the base to determine whether it can move throuh gaps in terrain.

I also informed all my opponents beforehand about this and every single one of them responded "isn't that how it's supposed to work?", so it's nice to see people want to let the Tendieman prosper.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Interesting that the tentacles only matter for where it can be placed. I like that and will use it. Thanks for asking and letting me know!

I might position the model on the base so that there is almost no base behind the model. I think it'll help with placement/movement so there is less overhang.

Just got the new beastie built today. I've got other items on my painting list, but the toxicrene will be coming shortly thereafter!

[Bohxim]

Always wondered if it was possible to build standing up then the tentacles angled up or down to reduce such issues. Don't own one so haven't tried

[N.I.B.]

Doesn't clear up whether you can deploy it with tentacles outside your deployment zone, or not.

[Bohxim]

It's not an aircraft right? And toxicrenes do not use "to the Hull" mechanics. So that should be allowed no?

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Feb 8, 2023 7:55:07 GMT Bohxim said:

Always wondered if it was possible to build standing up then the tentacles angled up or down to reduce such issues. Don't own one so haven't tried

GW did a pretty good job having a keyed place to put the legs and tentacles on the model. It helps with support for some of the large pieces. In order to pose the model differently, you'd have to do some clipping and add some greenstuff. I think it's feasible. You could also clip and angle the tentacles inwards towards the face to help reduce the footprint

[purestrain]

Screw that (please do not swear), I took two of the larger tentacle feet from a Tyrannocyte that I made into a sporocyst and made them the arms. one day ill add smaller appendages to that to make it look like the whips are sprouting from a concealed location, but for now no one ive played even knows the difference until you tell them and dont really care.

[TheDeepestShadow]

Feb 8, 2023 9:33:01 GMT N.I.B. said:

Doesn't clear up whether you can deploy it with tentacles outside your deployment zone, or not.

I believe a core rule FAQ from a while ago said that a model can overhang into no man's land, just not off the board, as long as the base is wholly within the deployment zone.

In my case it didn't matter since I always put ol' Toxi in a Tyrannocyte to give it the best chance of getting where it needed to go.

[trashcan01]

"Some large models, typically AIRCRAFT, have wings and other parts that extend significantly beyond their base, this can make it difficult for them to fit wholly within a mission’s deployment zone, and whilst the deployment sequences of mission packs clearly state that no part of the model can overhang the edge of the battlefield, the edge of your deployment zone is not mentioned.
For clarity, such models can overhang a deployment zone if it is not possible to set them up otherwise (i.e. if it is not possible to set them up without them overhanging their deployment zone), but when setting them up on the battlefield their base must still be wholly within their deployment zone."

So, the tentacles can stick out of the deployment zone, base should not. 


Also, when arriving from reserves:
"If a model is so large that it cannot physically be set up wholly within 6" of a battlefield edge (i.e. the smallest dimension of that model is greater than 6"), it must be set up so that it is touching your battlefield edge. During the turn in which such a model is set up on the battlefield, that model’s unit cannot do any of the following: make a Normal Move, Advance, Fall Back, Remain Stationary; attempt to manifest or deny psychic powers; make any attacks with ranged weapons; declare a charge; perform a Heroic Intervention; perform any actions or psychic actions."

[piersonsmuppet]

Note that if you can place the Toxicrene so that it isn’t overhanging into no mans land, you can’t have it overhang. Practically impossible to do unless the rest of your army is spaced out in your deployment zone (and likely not hidden from enemy fire).

[N.I.B.]

Yeah it means that 99% of the time you're forced to deploy your Toxicrene waaaay back in your deployment zone. Or just deploy it backwards with its Ass of Doom facing the enemy.

[naviedzony]

Toxicrene is cool looking model, but in my opinion in a game that relies on bases no part of a model should extend past the rim of the base. At least not on a ground level.

[Bohxim]

Feb 10, 2023 12:41:04 GMT N.I.B. said:

Yeah it means that 99% of the time you're forced to deploy your Toxicrene waaaay back in your deployment zone. Or just deploy it backwards with its Ass of Doom facing the enemy.

Ass of horned chitin?
I don't see why opponents wouldn't allow it, there's no tactical advantage since the tentacles do not confer any advantage

[draaen]

Little late to this party but I run 3 of the guys on the regular. First of all I have not encountered even in tournaments people who weren't super chill about tentacle management. They will still shoot you from it though.

However I did spend some modeling time on my guys to make them work well on the table. One method is to bend the tenacles in a pot of boiling water with two pairs of pliers. Your mating surfaces need to be cleaned up a bit but hey you can always get one to look like it is wrapping around an unfortunate enemy. Second and much easier is to swap the right and left arm then point the tentacles backward and cut off a bit of the model so it looks like he is rearing back to swing forward. Cool pose and very playable. By far the easiest of the two methods. Also makes transport WAY easier.