40k league: Tyranids vs 14 armies over 6 months

[countkrojaer]

I mentioned a few days ago in a thread that I am about to start a semi competetive 40k league at end of Jan. Today I found out the other players' factions. I will play everyone once over next 6 months.

2000pt games using new missions from arks of Omens



IMPERIUM
2x Blood Angels
Space Wolves
Grey Knights
Imperial Guard - Cadia
Imperial Knights (House unknown, maybe House Taranis)

CHAOS
Chaos Knights (House Unknown)
2x Deathguard
Night Lords
Alpha Legion
Chaos Demons (khorne I think)

XENOS
(Me - Jormungandr)
GS Cults
Tau standard
Tau Farsight Enclaves

So a good variety to test out post nerf nids.
I'm going to pick my list after the battlescribe update but I'm thinking probably something like:

Territorial Instincts maybe or Naturalised Camo
2ndrys : maybe engage on all fronts and raise the banners ?

HQ
2x walkrant with balethorn and shardgullet cannons (3CP)
1x Neurothrope

TROOPS
??

ELITES
Deathleaper - alien cunning (1CP)
Lictor
Tyrant Guard (do I need 2 units?)
Maleceptor
Pyrovore x 3 models 1cp deepstrike

FAST

Raveners?
trygon?
Mawloc?

HEAVY
Screamer Killer x 3 models -
Acidfex?
Exocrene?

Tips welcome Guys cos re troops and a battle plan I'm not sure haha

[NoOn]

My guess, for troops, is that termagants are good nowadays. They hit range pretty well immo for only 7 pts. I don't play Jormungandr tho so I don't know the synergies with this hive fleet.

For fast, I would saw Mawloc is really strong atm. For 125 pts + 10 Adrenal glands, you get a fast 16 melee attacks at -3 AP for 2DMG I think thats a good deal.

Heavy, I agree with the screamer killer. They look strong. Maybe an exocrene to add?

Good luck in the league. Looking forward to read about your matches.

[dkng]

Against this many MEQs, Warriors with a Bonesword are still the best Troops, especially as AoC is gone. 35 ppm is a lot but hey - remember that GW hates us now.
Termagants are not good for 7 ppm. They are ok at best and really close to worthless without a Tervigon. But together with the big mama a blob of 30 is a fine choice to clump up a huge chunk of the battlefield.
Exo and Acidfex are both fine, the latter is a bit pricey thought nowadays. Exo cover-ignoring is sweet to make sure MEQs dont get their save and Acidfex is great for flanking from SR (now with no CP cost).

[Bohxim]

Jan 15, 2023 6:36:06 GMT NoOn said:

My guess, for troops, is that termagants are good nowadays. They hit range pretty well immo for only 7 pts. I don't play Jormungandr tho so I don't know the synergies with this hive fleet.

For fast, I would saw Mawloc is really strong atm. For 125 pts + 10 Adrenal glands, you get a fast 16 melee attacks at -3 AP for 2DMG I think thats a good deal.

Heavy, I agree with the screamer killer. They look strong. Maybe an exocrene to add?

Good luck in the league. Looking forward to read about your matches.

Wasn't mawloc ap1, 1d? Adrenal glands only improves strength and movement.
Just checked his data sheet. You might be referring to his toxin spike. That attack has this attached to it
"Each time the bearer fights, it makes 1 additional attack with this weapon, and no more than 1 attack can be made with this weapon while resolving that fight."
So his 16 swings are only ap1 1d

[NoOn]

Jan 15, 2023 8:27:16 GMT Bohxim said:

Jan 15, 2023 6:36:06 GMT NoOn said:

For fast, I would saw Mawloc is really strong atm. For 125 pts + 10 Adrenal glands, you get a fast 16 melee attacks at -3 AP for 2DMG I think thats a good deal.

Wasn't mawloc ap1, 1d? Adrenal glands only improves strength and movement.
Just checked his data sheet. You might be referring to his toxin spike. That attack has this attached to it
"Each time the bearer fights, it makes 1 additional attack with this weapon, and no more than 1 attack can be made with this weapon while resolving that fight."
So his 16 swings are only ap1 1d

Oh I read toxin spike wrong then, but AP -1 is now better without AOC  but its only 1d. Well yeah not alot of DMG per swing but still 16 swings hehe. 125 pts is still a good deal imo for the Mawloc.

You don't like the idea of adding adrenal gland? He has 7 Str and AG would bring it to 8 str , it could potentialy change the wound roll for smaller 4 toughness units or bigger 7 toughness ones. Seeing how fast Mawloc is, it could reach the enemy firing back lane quite efficiently.

[Bohxim]

My worry is more the wasted cost. If I use his mw pop up,i can't charge. And he dies before doing anything. Most people wouldn't allow a 16 attack model to stay within 9" of their units.
If I start on the table, I feel like I'm wasting its abilities. But maybe this is just a me problem. Lol

[afewveiws]

Mawlocks ground burst ability is lack luster in my opinion. Usually going to struggle to hit more then 2 units unless your opponent is clueless and unlucky, lol, and then the damage isn't that great either. Feel the same way about the trygons tunnel now that you need cp to tunnel others with him.

[Mioum]

Jan 15, 2023 18:31:33 GMT Bohxim said:

My worry is more the wasted cost. If I use his mw pop up,i can't charge. And he dies before doing anything. Most people wouldn't allow a 16 attack model to stay within 9" of their units.
If I start on the table, I feel like I'm wasting its abilities. But maybe this is just a me problem. Lol

The Terror from the Deep ability can let you charge if you manage to position it right and deploy 9" away from the enemy after coming up from the ground. Could be tricky to get it right all the time, but you could do both the MW and charge in the right situation. You need to have the marker a bit less than 6" away from the target unit(s), then pop within 12" in the opposite direction, that should gives you that 9" distance needed. Could be easily countered by anyone knowing what is coming up tho.

[piersonsmuppet]

Jan 15, 2023 18:31:33 GMT Bohxim said:

My worry is more the wasted cost. If I use his mw pop up,i can't charge. And he dies before doing anything. Most people wouldn't allow a 16 attack model to stay within 9" of their units.
If I start on the table, I feel like I'm wasting its abilities. But maybe this is just a me problem. Lol

You can still charge after dealing MWs, the MWs come from the placed marker not the Mawloc. However, a Mawloc should be dropping to score BEL or deny Primary, that way it affects the game just by existing and forces anti-tank away from your more important monsters.

[Bohxim]

Oooooh! 8th Ed must've stuck in my mind then. Because they did mw by proximity and that automatically prevented you from charging. Good to know!

[countkrojaer]

So guys

I had a practice game for the league a couple of days ago, where I destroyed Space Wolves so that was good. Made a couple of changes afterwards.

I'm playing Alpha Legion tomorrow, bit nervous as I find it hard to beat Chaos for some reason but will just stick to my plan and see what happens. I'll feedback here later

[countkrojaer]

Played my first game of the 40k league I'm in this eve; Jormungandr vs Alpha Legion.

I lost, 85 -69 on AoO 2000pt mission 11.

I made a couple of big mistakes:

I wished I had started with my 3x Screamer killers on the board as his fire power was not that powerful.

I left my neurothrope too exposed.

But what really let me down (taking nothing away from my opponent who played well) was:

A) I started 2nd which meant that I didn't get any CP until the start of my turn 2 as mission rules say you only get CP in your Command phase for holding obj. in no man's land.

B) Secondaries. I maxed out Behind Enemy Lines but my opponent's secondaries were very synergistic for him, the chaos one in particular was very good.

Units I am not convinced by:

Exocrine - why do people like this model? The gun is OK but it should be longer range. If it brackets it is hard to hit with. If exocrine ends up in combat gun is useless as it's blast. Not a fan.

Pyrovores - I ran them as separate units for actions but it made them quite vulnerable. I may either run them as a 2 or 3 model unit, drop them or bring them as in as reserves to toast something.

Warriors - swapping these out for more bodies

Thanks guys

Next game is vs Deathguard and the best 40k player in the club!

[countkrojaer]

So I have another practice game tomorrow, before deathguard, as the guy isn't free until 22nd Feb.

I am still using my generalised list for the sakes of fairness I.e. I haven't swapped off my acid spray from my tyrannofex and put on a Rupture cannon.

So with the list I have, I expect to not be able to kill much, maybe an armiger or two; I'm just going to focus heavily on trying to score points.

I swapped out the exocrine from my games vs Alpha legion for a mawloc, 3rd pyrovore, another carnifex with HVC and crushing claws as a tank buster.

[dkng]

Just my two cents - a single 3-man squad of Warriors is always nice to have as a Synapse extender and their SI is one of the best we have. Nowadays their are but a shadow of their former glory but are still useful.