Some kind of record

[bugsy]

When the codex came out it was very strong. Help me to count the nerfs frim that point. And that is without one single boost as far as I can remember. I think the maleceptor was nerfed about 7 times right in the beginning. This last update is at least 10 nerfs. Isn’t this some kind of record?

[joysan76]

because they totally changed our codex in may deep and consolidates mechanics and seems they had no idea about the impact all the new rules could have.


personally, considering the starting codex... to try to fix it i think should be enough:

actual warrior points with the bonesword/boneswords NOT for free
point increae for ALL Heavy Venom Cannon (may be minor increae for stranglethorn cannon)
fix point for HT, WHT, zoantrope, neurotrope (and biovore is the spawn mine is a thrue problem)
cap obliterax and maleceptor MW
ok for 1 HT/detachment
leviathan trait with transnid 3+ /4+ on mosntrous sinaptic


all the other nerfs i think was useless and done only because they didn't know where to touch

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Losing adaptable was really annoying to me. It was a great fluffy mechanic.

1 tyrant per detachment and requiring the tyrant to be a warlord if you had one made sense to me.

[Bohxim]

Jan 9, 2023 16:25:06 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Losing adaptable was really annoying to me. It was a great fluffy mechanic.

1 tyrant per detachment and requiring the tyrant to be a warlord if you had one made sense to me.

1 tyrant per detachment seems to be no longer an issue in the arks of omen leak tho, which is a pity

[dkng]

You still pay 1 CP for the second one and can't take a third one...

[Bohxim]

You'd have to pay cp previously with troop tax anyways. So it's better now in that regard,just saying its not as fluffy as what he was saying

[dkng]

Jan 10, 2023 13:22:55 GMT Bohxim said:

You'd have to pay cp previously with troop tax anyways. So it's better now in that regard,just saying its not as fluffy as what he was saying

GW isnt giving a flying one about the fluff - they have started this with removing the adaptive-after-deployment rule...

[DukeMantis]

I'm pretty sure after the codex release there were 7 different hits either direct or indirect, i stopped counting at that point.

[purestrain]

Bugs can't be good, if we were and stayed that way people would ask for the same lore treatment for their codecies lol

[niiai]

Jan 10, 2023 16:03:13 GMT purestrain said:

Bugs can't be good, if we were and stayed that way people would ask for the same lore treatment for their codecies lol

We have been the topp dog since the new codex dropped. And during the start of 8th edition the infemus null deploy Hive Tyrant and Ripper Swarn was ekstrimly strong. Do not say we can't be good when we have been the best army there is several times.

[bugsy]

I tried looking at it from the other way. According to my memory, and I can very well be wrong, about 9 out of 41 entries have not been f@cked since the codex came out. Most of those 9 are pretty (please do not swear) though.

[acehilator]

That is not a unique Tyranid problem, so not sure what the problem is about.

The whining is strong in this thread.

[ausnid]

For me the most painful thing is that we were in a spot where there were a few viable, competitive builds. You could do Kraken ravs +/- spores, you could run levi good stuff +/- Terv, you could do monster mash in Jorm or Behemoth. The latest nerfs are such that the competitive options (if there is still such a thing) are really narrow - which is particularly irksome for an army that is meant to be about adaptation, flexibility etc.

[piersonsmuppet]

We still have several viable builds; Nidzilla, Behemoth/Gorgon Gaunt swarm, and Levi Gant swarm. Jorm Ganglia could still be viable with really tight play as well.

[joysan76]

well i played the last week agaisnt death guard... was a bad match i suffered a lot the amount of model he played and the amount of da,mage he can cause united to its resilience... just as curiosity i checked my list how was costing in march when the codex arrived... i seen a point increase of 360 points...

my opponet had the same curiosity... and his army cost now the same less...

honestly i don't believe in march we was 700 point stronger then death guard... and yes it's a whine thread but the problem is not the fact nids have been nerfed... but how they did it, for the most part personally i see only casual increases because other whines...