Jorm Comps question

[dkng]

Want to play some Jorm and have two lists in mind.
Which one of those will perform better in your opinion?


List 1


++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [74 PL, 1,490pts, -2CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Command Cost

Hive Fleet: (Lurk) Territorial Instincts, Jormungandr

+ Stratagems +

Hive Predator [-1CP]: Extra Warlord Trait

Relic [-1CP]

+ No Force Org Slot +

Tyrant Guard [8 PL, 120pts]
. 3x Tyrant Guard (Scything): 3x Two Rending Claws, 3x Two Scything Talons

Zoanthropes [7 PL, 150pts]: Power: Neuroparasite, 3x Zoanthrope

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [9 PL, 195pts]: Heavy Venom Cannon, Lash Whip and Monstrous Bonesword, Power: Onslaught, Power: The Horror, Relic: Shardgullet, Warlord

Neurothrope [5 PL, 100pts]: Power: Catalyst, Power: Paroxysm, Warlord Trait: Synaptic Tendrils

+ Troops +

Tyranid Warriors [8 PL, 170pts]: Adrenal Glands
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

Tyranid Warriors [8 PL, 170pts]: Adrenal Glands
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

+ Elites +

Zoanthropes [7 PL, 150pts]: Power: Neuroparasite, 3x Zoanthrope

+ Heavy Support +

Tyrannofex [11 PL, 205pts]: Acid Spray, Adaptive Physiology: Voracious Ammunition

+ Flyer +

Harpy [11 PL, 230pts]: 2x Heavy Venom Cannon, Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Tyranids) [24 PL, 510pts, 3CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]

Game Type: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim

Hive Fleet: (Lurk) Territorial Instincts, Jormungandr

+ Stratagems +

Rarefied Enhancements [-1CP]: Extra Bio-artefact

+ HQ +

Winged Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 230pts]: Adrenal Glands, Lash Whip and Monstrous Bonesword, Power: Neuroparasite, Power: Psychic Scream, Relic: The Reaper of Obilterax, Toxin Sacs

+ Troops +

Hormagaunts [4 PL, 80pts]
. 10x Hormagaunt: 10x Hormagaunt Talons

+ Heavy Support +

Exocrine [9 PL, 200pts]

++ Total: [98 PL, 1CP, 2,000pts] ++

List 2


++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [78 PL, 1,595pts, 3CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

Game Type: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim

Hive Fleet: (Lurk) Naturalised Camouflage, Jormungandr

+ Stratagems +

Hive Predator [-1CP]: Extra Warlord Trait

Rarefied Enhancements [-1CP]: Extra Bio-artefact

Relic [-1CP]

+ No Force Org Slot +

Tyranid Prime [5 PL, 85pts]: Lash Whip and Bonesword, Venom Cannon

Tyrant Guard [8 PL, 120pts]
. 3x Tyrant Guard (Scything): 3x Two Rending Claws, 3x Two Scything Talons

Zoanthropes [7 PL, 150pts]: Power: Psychic Scream, Power: Smite, 3x Zoanthrope

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [9 PL, 195pts]: Heavy Venom Cannon, Lash Whip and Monstrous Bonesword, Power: Catalyst, Power: Smite, Power: The Horror, Relic: Shardgullet, Warlord

Neurothrope [5 PL, 100pts]: Power: Catalyst, Power: Onslaught, Power: Smite
. Relic: Resonance Barb: Power: Paroxysm

+ Troops +

Tyranid Warriors [8 PL, 175pts]: Adrenal Glands, Flesh Hooks
. Tyranid Warrior: Lash Whip and Bonesword, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

Tyranid Warriors [4 PL, 95pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Lash Whip and Bonesword, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

+ Elites +

Zoanthropes [7 PL, 150pts]: Power: Neuroparasite, 3x Zoanthrope

+ Fast Attack +

Parasite of Mortrex [4 PL, 80pts]: Warlord Trait: Alien Cunning

+ Heavy Support +

Exocrine [10 PL, 215pts]: Adaptive Physiology: Voracious Ammunition

+ Flyer +

Harpy [11 PL, 230pts]: 2x Heavy Venom Cannon, Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Tyranids) [19 PL, 405pts, -3CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]

Hive Fleet: (Lurk) Naturalised Camouflage, Jormungandr

+ Stratagems +

Rarefied Enhancements [-1CP]: Extra Bio-artefact

+ HQ +

Winged Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 230pts]: Adrenal Glands, Lash Whip and Monstrous Bonesword, Power: Neuroparasite, Power: Psychic Scream, Power: Smite, Relic: The Reaper of Obilterax, Toxin Sacs

+ Troops +

Tyranid Warriors [8 PL, 175pts]: Adrenal Glands, Flesh Hooks
. Tyranid Warrior: Lash Whip and Bonesword, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

++ Total: [97 PL, 2,000pts] ++

[piersonsmuppet]

Question really depends on terrain; Nat Camo is better for player placed (maybe WTC as well) and territorial is better for set configs. Terrain aside, I like the TI list better.

1 CP seems a little low, I think 2 CP so you can deepstrike the Tfex and the Harpy is better than Tendrils. Harpy is still pretty easy to lose T1 even with a 4++.

Edit: Nat Camo list just seems low on infantry for the archtype.

[dkng]

Nov 19, 2022 23:21:50 GMT piersonsmuppet said:

Question really depends on terrain; Nat Camo is better for player placed (maybe WTC as well) and territorial is better for set configs. Terrain aside, I like the TI list better.

1 CP seems a little low, I think 2 CP so you can deepstrike the Tfex and the Harpy is better than Tendrils. Harpy is still pretty easy to lose T1 even with a 4++.

Edit: Nat Camo list just seems low on infantry for the archtype.

Thanks for the input. I'll try that although I love the Tendrils wlt sooo much

[piersonsmuppet]

I like it a lot too, I took it every time when I used to run 1x Neuro. Now run 2x in every list and can’t go back. My current Jorm TI list looks very similar to yours except all my warriors are 3-mans to fit a 2nd Neuro.

[dkng]

Nov 20, 2022 22:05:37 GMT piersonsmuppet said:

I like it a lot too, I took it every time when I used to run 1x Neuro. Now run 2x in every list and can’t go back. My current Jorm TI list looks very similar to yours except all my warriors are 3-mans to fit a 2nd Neuro.

You're also going double patrol with RoO flyrant and Shard walkrant?
After some trial and error I figured out it IS worth it to pay 2 CP for this. Those guys are like hammer and anvil in the army.

[piersonsmuppet]

No, I swapped to Shardgullet/SL for double patrols even before the RoO nerf. I don’t find RoO worth it without Kraken’s 8” Advance, and I haven’t really needed it to deal with phase capped models.