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[cmob208]

++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [46 PL, 955pts, 3CP] ++

Hive Fleet: (Hunt) Augmented Ferocity, Leviathan

+ No Force Org Slot +

Tyrant Guard [8 PL, 120pts]
. 3x Tyrant Guard (Scything): 3x Two Rending Claws, 3x Two Scything Talons

+ HQ +

Neurothrope [5 PL, 100pts]: Power: Catalyst, Power: Hive Nexus, Power: Onslaught, Warlord Trait: Synaptic Tendrils

The Swarmlord [11 PL, 240pts]: Bone Sabres, Power: Paroxysm, Power: Psychic Scream, Warlord

+ Troops +

Tyranid Warriors [8 PL, 180pts]: Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

+ Elites +

Venomthropes [5 PL, 105pts]
. 3x Venomthrope: 3x Toxic Lashes

Venomthropes [5 PL, 105pts]
. 3x Venomthrope: 3x Toxic Lashes

+ Fast Attack +

Raveners [4 PL, 105pts]
. Ravener: Ravener Claws, Two Rending Claws
. Ravener: Ravener Claws, Two Rending Claws
. Ravener: Ravener Claws, Two Rending Claws

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Tyranids) [37 PL, 845pts, -2CP] ++

Hive Fleet: (Hunt) Augmented Ferocity, Leviathan

+ HQ +

Winged Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 230pts]: Adrenal Glands, Lash Whip and Monstrous Bonesword, Power: Hive Nexus, Power: Onslaught, Power: Psychic Scream, Prehensile Pincer Tail, Relic: The Reaper of Obilterax, Toxin Sacs, Tyrant Talons, Warlord Trait: Adaptive Biology

+ Troops +

Tyranid Warriors [12 PL, 315pts]: Adrenal Glands, Flesh Hooks, Toxin Sacs
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

+ Elites +

Zoanthropes [7 PL, 150pts]: Power: Hive Nexus, Power: The Horror, 3x Zoanthrope

Zoanthropes [7 PL, 150pts]: Power: Hive Nexus, Power: Neuroparasite, 3x Zoanthrope

++ Total: [83 PL, 1CP, 1,800pts] ++

Debating adding either an Exocrine or a Tyranid Prime and Broodlord. Also considering Genestealers. Any feedback appreciated! Would love to add a Harpy, but don't have one, so not an option.

[turtletyrant]

I think you're missing some heavy long range shooting, so adding an exocrine or a tyranofex with rupture cannon and add voracious ammo on either to pack some extra mortal wounds would be nice.
I used a doulbe patrol reaper flyrant and shardgullet walkrant on a tournament this weekend, and i feel like the lack of starting CP really hurt me bad.
Genestealers were also a part of my list but will throw them out. Apart from early holding of an objective they didn't do much and died very soon in most games.

[dkng]

Can you promptly explain the reason behind Swarmy and double Venoms?

[No One]

Raveners should have deathspitters.

[cmob208]

Sept 27, 2022 19:13:14 GMT dkng said:

Can you promptly explain the reason behind Swarmy and double Venoms?

Good question - I think Swarmy's full RRs and obsec is good, and he's pretty good in combat - plus can make use of the tyrant guard alongside the hive tyrant to push up aggressively. 

TBH part of the answer to why swarmy and why venomthropes is that these seem to be the best models I have. I don't think I would include 2xvenoms in an optimal list if I had all the models. But they are quite good for their cost with lots of attacks, poison 2+'s, along with -1 to hit aura and fight last, and are pretty quick. 

[cmob208]

Sept 28, 2022 3:08:52 GMT No One said:

Raveners should have deathspitters.

I agree that this is ideal - this one is actually a modeling issue - I have the old metal raveners, so can only have 4 arms. Maybe will ask the TO if I can put deathspitters on and not have the ravener claws or something.

[cmob208]

Sept 27, 2022 17:18:24 GMT turtletyrant said:

I think you're missing some heavy long range shooting, so adding an exocrine or a tyranofex with rupture cannon and add voracious ammo on either to pack some extra mortal wounds would be nice.
I used a doulbe patrol reaper flyrant and shardgullet walkrant on a tournament this weekend, and i feel like the lack of starting CP really hurt me bad.
Genestealers were also a part of my list but will throw them out. Apart from early holding of an objective they didn't do much and died very soon in most games.

Yeah, definitely have to manage CP carefully with so little to start with. Right now I'm leaning towards the Broodlord and Prime over the Exocrine... but yeah what you're describing would be the role of the exocrine. Leaning against genestealers. Broodlord would be my go-to for interrogate plus could do a bit of end-game melee if needed. Prime gives some more buffs/ synaptic imperative. But yes this army would have little shooting and would want to push up the board fairly quickly and/ or stay hidden and trade depending on the matchup. 

[dkng]

Sept 28, 2022 17:14:03 GMT cmob208 said:

Sept 27, 2022 19:13:14 GMT dkng said:

Can you promptly explain the reason behind Swarmy and double Venoms?

Good question - I think Swarmy's full RRs and obsec is good, and he's pretty good in combat - plus can make use of the tyrant guard alongside the hive tyrant to push up aggressively. 

TBH part of the answer to why swarmy and why venomthropes is that these seem to be the best models I have. I don't think I would include 2xvenoms in an optimal list if I had all the models. But they are quite good for their cost with lots of attacks, poison 2+'s, along with -1 to hit aura and fight last, and are pretty quick. 

Thats fair enough.
I think you have three routes to be as competitive as possible - go full elite infantry (as many Warriors as you can manage), swap Swarmy for a Tervigon and add a Termagant carpet or drop Swarmy for two big bois (Harpies or Rupturefexes). Nids dont really need long range AT.