Which secondaries to choose?

[dkng]

Sept 2, 2022 21:30:46 GMT twistedmagpie said:

Ahh I see. But not troops, which I need to fill up slots.

Connundrum

I'd go for 2 x 10 Gargs and 9 Warriors (like your first list) so you can get
- a Bio and a Pyro or
- another 3 Warriors or
- even more Gargs

[twistedmagpie]

Unfortunately I only own 3 biovores, no more gargoyles, warriors, no pyrovores either.

I'm wondering if this is a good compromise...


++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [101 PL, , 2,000pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

Game Type: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim

Hive Fleet: Adaptive, Behemoth

+ Stratagems +

Hive Predator [-2CP]: 2x Extra Warlord Trait

Rarefied Enhancements [-2CP]: 2x Extra Bio-artefact

Relic [-1CP]

+ No Force Org Slot +

Tyrant Guard [8 PL, 120pts]
. 3x Tyrant Guard (Scything): 3x Two Rending Claws, 3x Two Scything Talons

Zoanthropes [7 PL, 150pts]: 3x Zoanthrope

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [9 PL, -1CP, 210pts]: Adrenal Glands, Heavy Venom Cannon, Lash Whip and Monstrous Bonesword, Power: Onslaught, Power: Paroxysm, Power: Smite, Relic: Shardgullet, Stratagem: Warlord Trait, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Heightened Senses

Neurothrope [5 PL, 100pts]: Power: Catalyst, Power: Smite, Power: Unstoppable Onslaught, Warlord Trait: Direct Guidance
. Relic: Resonance Barb: Power: Psychic Scream

Trygon Prime [10 PL, 190pts]: Adrenal Glands, Biostatic Rattle, Relic: The Passenger

+ Troops +

Gargoyles [4 PL, 80pts]
. 10x Gargoyle: 10x Fleshborer

Gargoyles [4 PL, 80pts]
. 10x Gargoyle: 10x Fleshborer

Termagants [4 PL, 70pts]: Fleshborer, 10x Termagant

Tyranid Warriors [12 PL, 310pts]: Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

+ Elites +

Lictor [4 PL, 70pts]

Lictor [4 PL, 70pts]

+ Fast Attack +

Parasite of Mortrex [4 PL, 80pts]: Warlord Trait: Alien Cunning

+ Heavy Support +

Biovores [6 PL, 90pts]
. 2x Biovore: 2x Chitin-barbed Fists, 2x Spore Mine Launcher

Screamer-Killers [8 PL, 165pts]
. Screamer-Killer: Adaptive Physiology: Synaptic Enhancement, Adrenal Glands, Spore Cysts

Tyrannofex [12 PL, 215pts]: Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis, Rupture Cannon

++ Total: [101 PL, 2,000pts] ++

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I can plan for Behind Enemy Lines, Physical Interrogation and Raise the Banners.

I have the biovores, Gants and gargoyles to fill my back lines and hold home objectives, prevent deepstrike zones.

The lictors and trygon can be used to get behind enemy lines.

Neurothrope to deal with interrogations.

The warriors are perfectly suited to hold a centre objective and the rest to kill as much a possible

How does this sound for a strategy?

[dkng]

For me this sounds and looks good tbh. Play with it, see for yourself what's working and what's not. What I like the most is double Lictors and the Trygon.

[twistedmagpie]

Thanks for all your help dking. I'll let you know how it goes on Wednesday at a test game.

[twistedmagpie]

Any advice on deployments, general tactics or particular strats that would be worth saving my command points for?

Of course I've spent all 6 at the start so I'll be relying on those I get in each player turn.

[dkng]

HiSenses are pointless on Walkarant - give him the Direct Guidance instead freeing the Neuro. That's 1 CP saved. Basically with a 9 Warriors blob you want to keep 2CP for RHN strat - -1 dmg can be huge with those mofos. Other than that the Overrun is fantastic for the Trygon, with 2 Lictors you will use Pheromones from time to time. If your Warriors ever get slapped hard in melee remember about Behemoth strat - can be really gamechanging.
As for deployment I would personally keep Trygon and one Lictor in reserves (perhaps PoM too) to keep your enemy on his toes and guessing. I bet some people around here will disagree but with your list this should be easily doable.

[twistedmagpie]

So 2 games Vs Dark Angels. Neither lasted more than 2 turns.

The first he got to start but the zoenthropes synaptic imperative kept all the important things alive. Mainly the screamer Killer got away standing on the front line without a scratch! Very lucky on my part.

On my turn 1 I buffed the warriors and charged his deathwing Knights (5 man squad). He then counter charge with Ezekiel and his warlord. My Tyrannofex annihilated a Redemptor Dreadknaut, screamer Killer charged and wiped out the second Redemptor Dreadknaut.
He then interrupted with the Knights but RNH (thanks for the advice) kept 4 of them alive. I returned attacks using Adaptive something strat to give each warrior an extra attack; split 2 on each character and killed them!
Ezekiel had miscast so only had 2 wounds and his warlord failed 5 out of 7 3+ armour saves.

Suffice to say my opponent was very unhappy and we started a new game.

This only was played with deployment on the short edges and not much covering terrain in the middle so I just lined up; got first turn and threw everything up the board as quick as I could. Turn 1 screamer Killer took one Dreadknaut to 1 wound and between the Tyrannofex and give tyrant I killed the other one too.

The objective was to mark objectives that scored at the end game, I had three and in my turn 2 I prevented him getting one of his. If killed of his Knights, chaplain and most of his hellblasters and he quit.

It was a long night for him and I think by that point need got a bit pissed with his poor dice roles and my great saves. It might have been quite close had he continued to play but his warlord was in jeaperdy and it was the map that only gives you command points if you have your warlord.
So all in all, not really a great learning curve but when nods hit they can got damn hard for sure.