New Idea and comp play

[warpmind]

Hello all, a couple of things (I’m new to thread) so I hope I lay this all out properly.

1. Spores allow turn 1 drop (See: Float Down). The idea here is to force Opponent first turns (Movement, Shooting, and Objectives) for around 200 pts or less. In a meta where close combat or running heavy venoms - let’s say we off side placement of the few objectives there are (Back Ob/ Center Ob + a right or left). We essentially force a unit to give up their shooting AND early scoring (which in turn would minimize shooting towards the nids anyway). Or take the D3-6 mortal wound average. This allows us to move in and provide the early scoring but we get to turn 1 choose how the opposing battlefield should shift or be “blocked”…. Thoughts?

2. Additionally - I’m new to the recent chapter approved and I think this has so many benefits, I’m trying to bring together a comp list (in a “Strictly Better” sense). I currently struggle against some armies that I don’t know all the rules for (or what rules would overtake others). I would love to pick some major tournament lists apart and figure it out but I’m having difficulty trying to obtain these.

[No One]

1. Biovores do the same thing, better (6" vs 9", and after shooting so you can clear spots), every turn, while also actually existing. If spores are bad in a match up, then you haven't spent too much and they can at least help out with backfield obj/screening etc. If they're good, then bios are amazing. Also harpy does the same/similar thing while being a solid unit just on it's own merit as a mobile shooting threat.

Also these sorts of strategies often struggle a lot more going 2nd: while bios+spores could lock down some armies even harder going 1st, you're very vulnerable to not accomplishing much going 2nd. Basically worse bios, and way too 'win more' when bios are good.

2. Goonhammer.

[afewveiws]

As far as the turn 1 drop pods for being a turn 1 threat, you could look toward genestealers and broodlords to have a wider presence on the board during deployment and choosing a fleet with access to movement extension. Add in flying threats and you could in theory apply more then half of your army into the enemy in your turn 1.

Going this route make sure to hide well during deployment since your turn 0 is potentially a risk in its own rite.
You will also want a portion of your list dedicated to sitting on objectives while the enemy tries to grind their way out of their deployment zone.

If they get out too early or you don't do enough damage in the initial assault you'll likely lose to attrition. To help mitigate this make sure to bring a couple follow up finishers. Swarmlord is one I have always enjoyed in this style of list but he's expensive and could be argued to be worst then a flyrant. A walking tyrant with cannon can also be a good target for this role along with Ooe, trygons(primes), a large unit of warriors with boneswords and ag... A lot of options.

Turn 1 drops could be a lot of things but a full warrior unit with prime could be good, or is it still limited to 1 unit inside pod.

How many pods were you planning on running?



Edit: disregard, I misread the op and went the wrong way.