2k leviathan list

[turtletyrant]

Looking at some of the lists, i came up with my own variant from what i have at home right now; Leviathan with standard adaptive

PATROL 1:

Hive tyrant - lash whip/bonesword + shardgullet

Neuro w/ synaptic tendrils

3x Tyrant guard - scything talons

5x Tyranid warriors - 1x VC, 4x deathspitter, 4x dual bonesword, 1x lash whip/bonesword
5x Tyranid warriors - 1x VC, 4x deathspitter, 4x dual bonesword, 1x lash whip/bonesword

3x zoanthropes

1x exocrine w/ voracious ammo

1x harpy w/ HVC and synaptic enhancement

PATROL 2:

Flyrant w/ reaper, AD, TS

5x Tyranid warriors - 1x VC, 4x deathspitter, 4x dual bonesword, 1x lash whip/bonesword

5x genestealers

1x harpy w/ HVC and dermic symbiosis

Total: 2000 pts, starting with 1 CP

Any thoughts on possible improvements/changes?

[dkng]

Play with the list a bit and tell if the Shardgullet is worth it. General notion lately is going for single batallion with just the Flyrant and taking more Warriors to capitalise on Levi transnid. You also save on CPs and I strongly disagree with statement that Nids don't need CPs.

[piersonsmuppet]

Nids only need CP when fielding 9-man Warrior units. 1 CP is perfectly fine when your main strats don’t cost 2 CP. Less CP just requires tighter play as mistakes and bad dice are harder to recover from.

List is a pretty standard Levi, your only real options for edits is playing with Warrior amounts (ie running 1x9 & 2x3 vice 3x5) unless you go the battalion route. I find Shardgullet worth it personally; an untargetable heavy weapon is pretty fun (though I prefer the flying variety so the TG don’t impede the tyrant).

[turtletyrant]

Aug 26, 2022 22:03:51 GMT dkng said:

Play with the list a bit and tell if the Shardgullet is worth it. General notion lately is going for single batallion with just the Flyrant and taking more Warriors to capitalise on Levi transnid. You also save on CPs and I strongly disagree with statement that Nids don't need CPs.

Will try it out and post a short BR after the match(es)..
I dont like the idea of a single flyrant just because of the imperatives.. a walkrant behind the guard is much safer.

Starting out with 1 cp, then get 1 right away, and if you roll well, you can still get 1 on psychic interogation

[turtletyrant]

Aug 26, 2022 22:20:12 GMT piersonsmuppet said:

Nids only need CP when fielding 9-man Warrior units. 1 CP is perfectly fine when your main strats don’t cost 2 CP. Less CP just requires tighter play as mistakes and bad dice are harder to recover from.

List is a pretty standard Levi, your only real options for edits is playing with Warrior amounts (ie running 1x9 & 2x3 vice 3x5) unless you go the battalion route. I find Shardgullet worth it personally; an untargetable heavy weapon is pretty fun (though I prefer the flying variety so the TG don’t impede the tyrant).

Would 5 units of 3 warriors be just as effective? I have been considering the two options, 5x3 or 3x5.. the 5 man unit has a bit more survivability, but 3 man units are more flexible and even if killed outright, isnt that bad

[dkng]

Overrun, Appetite, RHN (unless you run 3-strong Warriors), Death Frenzy, Shard Lure, Regeneration to go up a bracket... we do have good strats to spend CPs on. And an occasional save or cast reroll can turn the tide so I'd say stating you only need CPs for RHN on 9 Warriors is an oversimplification.

[piersonsmuppet]

I like 3-mans more than 5-mans, specifically for Banners or dropping two units into Strategic Reserves. However, hold 2/3 missions can become difficult to score primary without a big block of Warriors. I’ve been running 3x3 lately and I’ve liked the results.

[turtletyrant]

Aug 27, 2022 16:30:26 GMT piersonsmuppet said:

I like 3-mans more than 5-mans, specifically for Banners or dropping two units into Strategic Reserves. However, hold 2/3 missions can become difficult to score primary without a big block of Warriors. I’ve been running 3x3 lately and I’ve liked the results.

i could still send 2 squads forward which would be 6 models, while still having 3 units elsewhere, meaning more flexibility, which might work better. I am usually playing banners and this would definetly help with the shooting and doing actions.

[turtletyrant]

Would it be useful/smart to spend the last CP to give the flyrant alien cunning to get obsec and try to deny the opponent a primary objective?

[piersonsmuppet]

Eh, maybe. Usually you want to hit and run with overrun. Denying 4VP isn’t generally worth losing the Tyrant.

[toretyrann]

Why have one dude in each squad with a whip?

[dkng]

Sept 1, 2022 6:42:09 GMT toretyrann said:

Why have one dude in each squad with a whip?

Psychotropic Venom Strat.

[turtletyrant]

Sept 1, 2022 6:42:09 GMT toretyrann said:

Why have one dude in each squad with a whip?

Honestly, just because that is what i have at home at the moment, and this is what im planing on having for the tournament at the end of the month (the local shop takes ages to get anything so i dont expect to get any additional warriors by then).

I did split the warriors into 5 units of 3 so the lash whip guys are in a seperate unit now.

But dkng's anwser is a lot better