Two Parasites?

[beastoftanagra]

I’ve been running a list that uses two Tyranid Primes to synaptic link my front line Warriors and Hormagaunts back to my back-line Neurothrope/Zoanthropes/Hive Tyrant. It seems like I’m most of my battles the Primes never do me much good, and they have a hard time keeping up.

The Parasite of Mortrex is cheaper and WAY faster. I’m thinking of subbing them in for my Primes, but before I buy a second Parasite, I’d anyone aware of any reason I can’t take two Parasites in the same detachment?

Thanks,

[infornography]

Parasite is not unique, you can double up on them. I'd probably recommend 1 Parasite and 1 Prime though, Parasite is pretty fragile and has a very niche role of objective yoinking and potentially weak support character assassination. Prime SL is solid. They can perform escort duty for something a bit slower that needs synapse or even backline babysitting with a cannon ready with a bit of counterpunch when needed. If you want a heavy push list though with two fast moving infantry blobs (Horms and/or Gargs) having each escorted by a Parasite might serve you well. Just a whole lot of points for that tactic.

[wcgnidz]

Parasite is also not amazingly punchy. It's okay on the charge as kraken for the ap bonus.

Instead of two parasites, I'd also encourage you to CONSIDER the dirgehart of Kharis relic on a single parasite.

Means if you're willing to spend 1cp for the movement phase obsec stripping strat(encaphelic strike?), a single parasite could take obsec off 3 units in a turn. And the relic while it doesn't deal mortals and has different timing, only requires you hit with an attack unlike the ovipositor attack which requires a wound. Not insanely relevant in a lot of instances, but means you can much more reliably strip obsec off a high T target like a knight on a turn it could decisively swing the game. Also more pertinent into crons.

I was playing this briefly. I liked the parasite, especially in a kraken list with the tervigon. Aka feasibly giving the parasite +2" move via tervigon imperative for a turn, and then MINIMUM advancing 4"(Could also have it advance and be able to do actions/count as obsec and 5 models via alien cunning, but I can't NOT put that on Death Leaper who's my absolute BAE).

It had some great play, especially for like turn 1 super reaching and dropping like 4 banners in a turn(in conjunction with DL). Parasite flies far behind obscuring at an objective far from opponent if table allows, death leaper rushes middle objective with advance, does a banner and then probably invisible hunter strats after banner put up, banners two closest objectives to yourself using other elements of your army. boom 4 banners turn 1(likely to lose 1 to enemy response). But I just found without an invuln and without more offensive power there were too many games I wasn't maxing the power of the Parasite. It can for sure swing games, but I found I was getting more value other places.

I have also considered multi-parasite but when you for their cost start to weigh opportunity cost v like lictors(who aren't amazing compared to Death Leaper but still aren't bad), or a unit of gargoyles for more fast obsec(that you can encircle), or the tyranid prime(which is meh, but depending on your list the imperative CAN be gross). She's not bad, but the nid dex is still just spoiled for choice.

[infornography]

Aug 2, 2022 11:53:18 GMT wcgnidz said:

but the nid dex is still just spoiled for choice.

Having played since 5th edition, I never thought I would read and agree with these words, but here we are :-)

[wcgnidz]

Aug 2, 2022 13:34:23 GMT infornography said:

Aug 2, 2022 11:53:18 GMT wcgnidz said:

but the nid dex is still just spoiled for choice.

Having played since 5th edition, I never thought I would read and agree with these words, but here we are :-)

As a fellow old timer, I agree. I started in 4th when i was too young/dumb to understand how broken tyranids were in 4th edition and somehow kept losing regardless. But it feels like there was a big span between 4th and now where we were paying for being the stupid broken army of 4th ed. Don't get me wrong, there were odd moments of playable stuff. Like before 5th became too insane and you could run a bunch of monsters with biomancy psychic(which 7th ed me was so, so, so, so, so, absurdly salty we couldn't run those powers). 

But like this edition. Looking at stuff like the reddit 40kstats meta monday comp breakdowns. Wow. the game is currently arguably the best it's ever been. 11 big events this past weekend with 10 factions taking #1 slot if I read correctly? With the top end of the WR% being in like 59%(when the internet agreed upon goal is the 45-55% faction WR sweet spot of balanced enough).

And yeah. Nids were dumb OP when the book dropped. The people who couldn't see it. I don't wanna be mean and say play more, improve your gameplay. But. Play more, improve your gameplay. Like I started new nids book when the leaks hit, streamed a ton of games too. of my first 64 games I lost.....four. And I am NOT a good player. I probably play more than the average person on the net, but absolutely less than people doing well at events. 

We got. Leviathan supplement(which was super awesome, i was cleaning house with just hive guard BS and levi and loved my list). Then like a month later we got crusher stampede AoR(which was insane insane insane fun, but I sort of was sad this was too fun/good to not play cause I really liked my levi HG list and took 2nd with just that supplement at like a 26 person event which at that point is the best i've ever done at any event of any size). And then we get the single most absurd dex of the entire edition so far(we'll see when daemons drops what happens, and guard books ALWAYS scare the piss out of me). But pushing through the sadness of like knowing the book was so absurdly broke at release and would get nerfed, seeing the datasheets. Like omfg. I don't know what I did to deserve this love in my 19 years playing. It was obvious the nid book(to me and many others though no shame if you don't/didn't agree) was so deep in terms of good units, they couldn't nerf us out of the top tier of play(at least probably not even with 2-3 nerfs). 

Ugh. like I have a beautiful Emperor's children army i bought fully painted and converted and gorgeous for.....the dude let it go for too cheap. I almost felt bad he let me haggle him down as much as I did, he didn't deserve that. But I gave him the emotional(hey i wanted to play EC as my first choice army but the new hive tyrant had just come out when I walked into a GW the first time and all that got abandoned. This is sort of my dream army you have here, i promise i'll never sell it unless perhaps you want it back later. It will see use and love and be stored lovingly. Blah blah blah. Totally true, except then GW made nids too fun).  And like now even with the new CSM book being amazing. EC in particular. Nids are in such an absurdly amazing place that I have....to much fun playing nids to even feel like playing my new EC rules with the 1-ish game I play every two weeks.....And that might be the most absurd compliment an army(nids) could possibly get from me. 

Now. My GSC? lets not talk about them. Norn queen is suuuuper embarassed by those children. And like their book has stolen some wins at big events recently. It's a super hard, smart person army. But I just....don't find them even the smallest bit fun. Too much of a thinking man's army for me.