Mawloc Post-FAQ

[piersonsmuppet]

With Obscuring Area Terrain giving models a 2” engagement, the Mawloc can now drop into engagement when close enough to ruins. Granted this isn’t anything new, this was possible with Defense Line Terrain. However, Defense Line was pretty rare. Does the change in the FAQ draw more interest in playing the Mawloc of folks?

[No One]

Then set the selected MAWLOC model up anywhere on the battlefield that is within 12" of the centre of that marker and not within Engagement Range of any enemy models

While a model is within 1" of an Area Terrain feature with this trait (e.g. Ruins) and the shortestline between it and an enemy model crosses over or through this terrain feature, then while those models are within 2" horizontally and 5" vertically of each other, they are within Engagement Range of each other.

Defence line works different: it's not actually ER.

[roystencrow]

I've only used it a couple of times, and it was tons of fun.

So, I'm intrigued by the extra inch knocked off the charge. With Shard Lure, I think there's a really great chance of getting in there with those awesome 16 attacks.

Looking forward to giving it a try

[bigbadbalou]

Just to be sure I understand what you are meaning Pierson (Seems to me the 2 other reply post are not addressing what you are asking, although I might misread your own post too...)

Let's say an enemy unit's model is 1 inch away from a ruin with obscuring (and the closest to that ruin). You pop your Mawlok at 0,5 inch inside the same ruin and at 1,5 inch from that closest enemy model.

So technically, the Mawlok is not within engagement range of an enemy model (1") when you place it. But with the new obscuring rule, at the close combat step, your Mawlok would technically be within engagement range (2") of the enemy, so could be activated and attack... And at that point, i'd add that since the Mawlok is still not in engagement range of them, and they didn't charge, the enemy unit would not be able to activate if they are not within 1" of the area terrain...? (That last part is extrapolating on what would occur, but i'm really not sure it would be a thing...)

Is it what you are saying? I'm not saying its possible or legit though. Just want to be sure we are talking about the same thing.

[No One]

Considering they're talking about shard lure, that's just a 'set outside 9" and charge', which is fine and this essentially knocks an inch off that to make it. Of course, taking a mawloc to charge into combat is eh.

bigbadbalou said:

So technically, the Mawlok is not within engagement range of an enemy model (1") when you place it. But with the new obscuring rule, at the close combat step, your Mawlok would technically be within engagement range (2") of the enemy, so could be activated and attack... And at that point, i'd add that since the Mawlok is still not in engagement range of them, and they didn't charge, the enemy unit would not be able to activate if they are not within 1" of the area terrain...? (That last part is extrapolating on what would occur, but i'm really not sure it would be a thing...)

This is precisely what we were talking about and saying you can't do. Because it is ER, and you can't set up in ER. It is not an ER that only activates during charge phase, or fight phase. Are you within 2" while meeting the criteria? You're in ER. Can a mawloc set up within ER? No.