Main strategies post nerfs

[bugsy]

I see two main strategies post nerfs. The first is tyrant tag team with two tyrants, one walking hvc warlord and one flying with reaper, plus tyrant guard. The second is Zoe bonanza with double neurothropes and multiple units of zoanthropes. What do you see?

[dkng]

I see skies are blue...

[xtztxtxz]

Expecting to see more vehicles on the table between the Guard, Marine, and Necron buffs.

I'm planning to try out a triple rupturefex list under Leviathan. Under 200pts each for T8 transhuman and an all-important free reroll on a D6+4 damage weapon.

[bugsy]

Jun 26, 2022 7:04:59 GMT dkng said:

I see skies are blue...

Ok, English is not my first language. What do you expect to see in a near future in terms of typical tyranid builds, considering the recent points and rules changes?

[Bohxim]

Jun 26, 2022 7:45:16 GMT xtztxtxz said:

Expecting to see more vehicles on the table between the Guard, Marine, and Necron buffs.

I'm planning to try out a triple rupturefex list under Leviathan. Under 200pts each for T8 transhuman and an all-important free reroll on a D6+4 damage weapon.

But you can only get 1 of them transhuman with physiology right? So the other 2 are mini-trans?

[purestrain]

Jun 26, 2022 9:56:05 GMT Bohxim said:

Jun 26, 2022 7:45:16 GMT xtztxtxz said:

Expecting to see more vehicles on the table between the Guard, Marine, and Necron buffs.

I'm planning to try out a triple rupturefex list under Leviathan. Under 200pts each for T8 transhuman and an all-important free reroll on a D6+4 damage weapon.

But you can only get 1 of them transhuman with physiology right? So the other 2 are mini-trans?

1 stratagem too

[xtztxtxz]

Learning not to try writing an army list on very limited sleep, so I can keep all the rules straight. What do I think is my main threat in the current meta? Kids.

[mirdhynn]

Jun 26, 2022 5:39:16 GMT bugsy said:

I see two main strategies post nerfs. The first is tyrant tag team with two tyrants, one walking hvc warlord and one flying with reaper, plus tyrant guard. The second is Zoe bonanza with double neurothropes and multiple units of zoanthropes. What do you see?

Really? Your strategy was only relying on the prince?
I am a little bit stunned by what I can read on the net. You loose synaptic imperative (only) when you lose the prince, not synaptic link, not the different abilities of the synapses.
Usually you play the 4++ of the zoanthropes on the first turn. Then you keep the warriors and the Neuro ones. Others are gadget.
Do you expect to loose your prince on first turn?
You have a risk, yes but it doesn't change so much the way to play.

I am more worrying about the cost of relics on our stratagem points pool

[purestrain]

Jun 26, 2022 15:10:24 GMT mirdhynn said:

Do you expect to loose your prince on first turn?

When hes forced to be the warlord, and removes your armies good ability when he dies, yes. I would expect anyone in a tournament to try to take out the WL Hive Tyrant on T1.

[DukeMantis]

Jun 26, 2022 5:39:16 GMT bugsy said:

I see two main strategies post nerfs. The first is tyrant tag team with two tyrants, one walking hvc warlord and one flying with reaper, plus tyrant guard. The second is Zoe bonanza with double neurothropes and multiple units of zoanthropes. What do you see?

I tentatively agree with what you see.

The durability of Leviathan, even post nerf seems will likely see it retain top spot among builds, at least for now. I'm curious if Levi players are still including a Maleceptor.

I'm seeing more people running Jorm/obsec monster lists with tyrannofexen and exocrine, shardgullet Tyrant etc.

My big question mark is what the aggressive Kraken/Behemoth lists do with the changes to flyrant? Throw caution to the wind and field it anyway, or something new..? I feel GW is railroading us into Trygon Prime but, as fun as that unit is I don't think it's overly competitive.

I realise I'm posing more questions than I'm answering, but I'm pretty much at a loss as to which direction to take.

[Jbizzy]

More tanks? More Fexes with Enhanced senses and HVCs. More Zoans for MW spam

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Alternatively, we go all in on gaunts and defensive buffs.

[colthulhu]

Jun 26, 2022 17:14:18 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Alternatively, we go all in on gaunts and defensive buffs.

This is what I'm trying. 130 Termagants with double Tervigon and then a Neuro and 2 units of Zoans to deal damage and a Malaceptor to push back strengths. Probably will try it as Jorm adapting into the additional +1 while in cover for 3+ save termagants. The issue I have is I don't know what secondaries we pick anymore. I guess the buff to banners makes it pretty good with this style of list, and Interogate would at least generate CP (Not that a horde list like this will be spending it very much), but what's the 3rd that you can pick up, Grind maybe?

[Jbizzy]

Terv is looking fairly priced compared to our other monster HQ slots now.

[piersonsmuppet]

Tervs also look good for delivering a 10-man gant unit to within 12” of the opponent’s deployment zone for scoring Spore Nodes. I’ve been playing with the idea of 1 Terv, 1x30 gants, and 2x3 warriors in strat reserves to score Spore Nodes. Terv w/ alien cunning or Territorial , and the gant block still provide good Primary holders as well.

I like (in theory) running a Terv in Jorm for Territorial, or Kraken and give it Chameleonic and Cunning. Might be a while before I get any games in to try though.