Parasite of M - role / combos / impressions (post FAQ)

[trashcan01]

So, the Parasite of Mortrex has been out there for some time now.

I am curious what are the impressions post FAQ. Before it could be used as an Synapse / Synaptice link slingshot, easily moved away with Encircle the Prey strat.
Now, with the changes, its usefulness dropped a bit.

I also did not see it all that much on the tables despite being 10pts more expensive than the Lictor and 10pts cheaper than the Deathleaper. They appear to have similar roles - speed and disruption, hard to target as well.

Can you please conclude the post with the score x / 10? 
10 being an autoinclude in every list, with 1 being "worse than the Genestealer spam".
 

[piersonsmuppet]

Depends on how you want to use it. FAQ made it lose the ability to stranglehold safely, so DL outclasses it there (4/10). On the board it works well with Horm/Garg spam, but that strategy isn’t super pts efficient so not great atm (6/10). PoM can still score you Behind Enemy Lines on its own with Gestation Sac, so a list running it and gargs for BEL could be decent (7/10).

In short, it’s a niche unit now and solid in specific roles.

[Master Chief]

I think that in kraken army lists you can "consider" the parasite just because of the ability of moving 24" with an obsec model that counts as 5.

Otherwise in 90% of the lists Deathleaper is better.

[bigpig]

dJust today finished up an 80 person GT (undefeated) where I brought him in a "slightly off meta" list. Parasite did "ok" and actually won me my last game by being able to belch rippers to hold and then next turn take an objective on my board half for stranglehold and then deny 4 for opponent.

Beyond that he was "ok." Very rarely did I get much out of deepstriking or infecting. Sure I did a few MWs but nothing major. I think in an early round game I took an objective by turning off obsec, but I was already winning easily. Overall I'm not sold, but I think of this unit and DL as a toolbox. When you need it, it can be clutch. Comes down to that. Will win you games15-20% of the time, maybe.

[dkng]

May 30, 2022 6:19:26 GMT bigpig said:

dJust today finished up an 80 person GT (undefeated) where I brought him in a "slightly off meta" list. Parasite did "ok" and actually won me my last game by being able to belch rippers to hold and then next turn take an objective on my board half for stranglehold and then deny 4 for opponent.

Beyond that he was "ok." Very rarely did I get much out of deepstriking or infecting. Sure I did a few MWs but nothing major. I think in an early round game I took an objective by turning off obsec, but I was already winning easily. Overall I'm not sold, but I think of this unit and DL as a toolbox. When you need it, it can be clutch. Comes down to that. Will win you games15-20% of the time, maybe.

Would you mind posting the list?

[tylertt]

As others have said, Parasite with Gestation Sac is the best use for it. I've ran it with this relic every time I've used it (played6 games with it) and every time the relic has come in clutch for stealing objs and protecting the parasite.

[bigpig]

May 30, 2022 7:27:14 GMT dkng said:

May 30, 2022 6:19:26 GMT bigpig said:

dJust today finished up an 80 person GT (undefeated) where I brought him in a "slightly off meta" list. Parasite did "ok" and actually won me my last game by being able to belch rippers to hold and then next turn take an objective on my board half for stranglehold and then deny 4 for opponent.

Beyond that he was "ok." Very rarely did I get much out of deepstriking or infecting. Sure I did a few MWs but nothing major. I think in an early round game I took an objective by turning off obsec, but I was already winning easily. Overall I'm not sold, but I think of this unit and DL as a toolbox. When you need it, it can be clutch. Comes down to that. Will win you games15-20% of the time, maybe.

Would you mind posting the list?

Don't want to hijack the thread, but here it is. I'll try to do a separate posting for the event rundown. As far as parasite goes, I mostly used him to help screen out my backfield as every opponent had the ability to teleport or had deepstriking bombs in reserve. Between the gestation sac and his speed there was great utility in that. In the second game vs Ksons, I was able to zip forward onto an objective being held by some rubrics and turned off their obsec to flip the objective and score a stranglehold. Did the same vs Orks in the final round. In the last game it was a clutch late game swap which gave me a stranglehold and took his objective for a 7pt conversion. Nothing earthshattering and I wonder if the 80pts and command pt wouldn't have been more useful elsewhere. I will say that the extra synapse node did come in handy a few times to bounce Imperatives around my board half. The parasites own imperative wasn't terribly useful in my games


++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) ++

Hive Fleet: Kraken
Hive Predator: Extra Warlord Trait
Rarefied Enhancements: Extra Bio-artefact

+ No Force Org Slot +

Tyrant Guard: Adrenal Glands
. 3x Tyrant Guard (Lash/Sword): 3x Lash Whip and Bonecleaver, 3x Two Rending Claws

Zoanthropes: 3x Zoanthrope

+ HQ +

Neurothrope: Power: Catalyst, Power: The Horror, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Synaptic Tendrils
. Relic: Resonance Barb: Power: Onslaught

The Swarmlord: Power: Paroxysm, Power: Psychic Scream

+ Troops +

Tyranid Warriors: Adrenal Glands
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

Tyranid Warriors
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon

Tyranid Warriors
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

+ Elites +

Maleceptor: Power: Neuroparasite, Power: Psychic Scream

Venomthropes
. 3x Venomthrope: 3x Toxic Lashes

+ Fast Attack +

Parasite of Mortrex: Relic: Gestation Sac, Warlord Trait: Alien Cunning

Raveners
. Ravener: Deathspitter, Two Rending Claws
. Ravener: Deathspitter, Two Rending Claws
. Ravener: Deathspitter, Two Rending Claws
. Ravener: Deathspitter, Two Rending Claws
. Ravener: Deathspitter, Two Rending Claws

Raveners
. Ravener: Deathspitter, Two Rending Claws
. Ravener: Deathspitter, Two Rending Claws
. Ravener: Deathspitter, Two Rending Claws

+ Heavy Support +

Carnifexes
. Carnifex: Enhanced Senses, Heavy Venom Cannon, Two Carnifex Crushing Claws

Carnifexes
. Carnifex: Enhanced Senses, Heavy Venom Cannon, Two Carnifex Scything Talons

Screamer-Killers
. Screamer-Killer: Adrenal Glands
. Screamer-Killer: Adrenal Glands

++ Total: [105 PL, 10CP, 2,000pts] ++

[trashcan01]

Thanks for the responses everyone, I guess it is a good enough pick for casual games. For more serious games I value consistency too much to play it.

In the end I've decided that the Parasite isn't worth the investment at the moment. I'll probably proxy it for kicks.

[roystencrow]

May 30, 2022 9:09:53 GMT tylertt said:

As others have said, Parasite with Gestation Sac is the best use for it. I've ran it with this relic every time I've used it (played6 games with it) and every time the relic has come in clutch for stealing objs and protecting the parasite.

I like

Will give the Gestation Sac and Parasite a go next battle.

[Master Chief]

May 31, 2022 14:26:57 GMT trashcan01 said:

Thanks for the responses everyone, I guess it is a good enough pick for casual games. For more serious games I value consistency too much to play it.

In the end I've decided that the Parasite isn't worth the investment at the moment. I'll probably proxy it for kicks.

As is the only new model, and the miniature is not that bad, I think you should have it.

And in the end can put his ass (counting as 5 models) and at least 2 more ripper swarms on an objective 26" away.

He is worst than Deathleaper, but he's not bad.

[infornography]

I think PoM is pretty good. Hell in our old codex he would have been an auto-include. The only reason anyone is lukewarm on him now is because they finally made Deathleaper everything he should always have been.

[LordPathos]

What is so good about the Gestation Sacs on PoM? Is it just for extra bodies and/or body blocking?

[purestrain]

Jun 1, 2022 3:44:53 GMT LordPathos said:

What is so good about the Gestation Sacs on PoM? Is it just for extra bodies and/or body blocking?

Im supposing its two fold.

Enfolding strike causes it itches, you can then have obsec with him (using alien cunning) override any amount of models in an obsec unit.

bodyblocks to negate counter charges and if you're lucky, and roll 3+ you get lookout sir for him.

[bigpig]

Purestrain covered it all. Its niche and won't happen every game, but when it does its very nice

[tylertt]

Jun 1, 2022 3:44:53 GMT LordPathos said:

What is so good about the Gestation Sacs on PoM? Is it just for extra bodies and/or body blocking?

The other benefit is the movement of the Parasite with Gestation Sac. Being super fast and allowing the spawned rippers to be within 3" allows you to launch and throw down bodies.

As Bigpig said overall the PoM is pretty niche in doing what it does, but when it works it is extremely fun.