Jorm Lictors

[dkng]

Am I right to say that Jorm Lictors basically cannot be targeted with shooting beyond 12”, even in the open, unless the attack specifically says the target does not receive the benefits of cover?

[piersonsmuppet]

yes, Lictors lack the “from terrain” language that Natural Camo has so Jorm will trigger Chameleonic Skin.

Note, even if the attack says the target doesn’t receive the benefits of cover, Lictors are safe. They can’t become a target in the first place.

[purestrain]

Thats slippery, I love it.

[dkng]

May 24, 2022 11:31:50 GMT piersonsmuppet said:

yes, Lictors lack the “from terrain” language that Natural Camo has so Jorm will trigger Chameleonic Skin.

Note, even if the attack says the target doesn’t receive the benefits of cover, Lictors are safe. They can’t become a target in the first place.

Is there a rule supporting that or it just reading-with-understanding that I missed? I get the idea but couldnt find a clear rule on this case.

[piersonsmuppet]

If a rule says “the target doesn’t benefit from cover”, the attacking unit has to be able to target it. Lictors can’t be targeted outside of 12” by ranged attacks under the benefit of cover. The only way to get around it would be for a non-ranged attack (psychic power, aura, strat, etc) to remove the benefits of cover from the lictor prior to a unit attempting to target it.

Edit: It would be a read by understanding since it is applying a few different Core and Rare rules to the scenario.

[No One]

piersonsmuppet said:

yes, Lictors lack the “from terrain” language that Natural Camo has so Jorm will trigger Chameleonic Skin.

Note, even if the attack says the target doesn’t receive the benefits of cover, Lictors are safe. They can’t become a target in the first place.

The same reasoning as to why ignores cover doesn't get around lictor (almost certain there is nothing that just outright removes cover: they just remove for attacks, even if they affect an enemy unit) is why it doesn't apply.

Jorm said:

Each time a ranged attack targets a unit (excluding MONSTER units) with this adaptation, if the attacker is more than 12" away, then the target is treated as having the benefits of Dense Cover against that attack.

Jorm gives you the benefit of cover after you're targeted.

Lictor said:

While this model is receiving the benefits of cover, it cannot be selected as the target of a ranged attack if the attacker is more than 12" away.

[piersonsmuppet]

Good catch. Looks like a Lictor can still be targeted through Jorm trait and BL imperative (both say when targeted).