Baltic Cup Kiel VIII

[N.I.B.]

Read an article about this very cool list that grabbed 3rd place at the Kiel VIII, as one of the undefeated 5-0 lists. It's a custom Fleet MSU build:

Battalion Detachment

Hive Fleet Other: Ambush Predators, Naturalised Camouflage

Stratagems [-2CP]

No Force Org slot: 3 Zoanthropes Power: Neuroparasite

Neurothrope Power: Catalyst, Onslaught, Relic: Gestation Sac, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Synaptic Tendrils
Tyranid Prime Dual Boneswords, Relic: Searhive, Toxin Sacs, Venom Cannon, Warlord Trait: Adaptive Biology


. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords


3x Pyrovores
3x Pyrovores
3x Pyrovores
3x Venomthropes
3x Zoanthropes Power: Psychic Scream
3x Zoanthropes Power: Psychic Scream


. Ravener: Deathspitter, Ravener Claws, Two Rending Claws
. Ravener: Deathspitter, Ravener Claws, Two Rending Claws
. Ravener: Deathspitter, Ravener Claws, Two Rending Claws

. Ravener: Deathspitter, Ravener Claws, Two Rending Claws
. Ravener: Deathspitter, Ravener Claws, Two Rending Claws
. Ravener: Deathspitter, Ravener Claws, Two Rending Claws

. Ravener: Deathspitter, Ravener Claws, Two Rending Claws
. Ravener: Deathspitter, Ravener Claws, Two Rending Claws
. Ravener: Deathspitter, Ravener Claws, Two Rending Claws

. 3x Biovore

Tyrannocyte

10CP
2000pts


I luv it. The custom traits grant the ability to heroically intervene army-wide as well as granting an additional save bonus when receiving benefits of cover. Gives away lots of No Prisoners points but at least he went 5-0. Lots of interactivity to avoid the feels-bad.

[piersonsmuppet]

It’s just spamming the most undercosted units in the codex, could probably run the list with any traits and it would do fine.

[trashcan01]

It would look great on the table, tho. I appreciate lack of Mals/Harpies/2xHVC Tyrants.
Lots and lots of multi wound chitin approaching at high velocity.

[purestrain]

May 12, 2022 14:22:33 GMT piersonsmuppet said:

It’s just spamming the most undercosted units in the codex, could probably run the list with any traits and it would do fine.

Nothing is undercosted, they all die to anything meant to kill heavy troops easily.

[nameless]

May 12, 2022 14:22:33 GMT piersonsmuppet said:

It’s just spamming the most undercosted units in the codex, could probably run the list with any traits and it would do fine.

Pretty much.

All the mid tier bugs have so many wounds for the points, it's pretty wild! How are gaunts 7 points, but a 5W pyrovore with +2T is 30?

[piersonsmuppet]

May 12, 2022 19:38:17 GMT purestrain said:

Nothing is undercosted

False. Comparing Pyros to Agressors (a relatively well costed unit with a similar role), they are at least 10 pts too cheap stat-wise (Agressors are 40pts).

May 12, 2022 19:38:17 GMT purestrain said:

they all die to anything meant to kill heavy troops easily.

Everything can die easily. If a unit only dies easily to something worth 2x the pts, you win because it never dies efficiently (a more important metric for 40K). NOTHING worth 75-90pts kills heavy troops easily.  

[N.I.B.]

What secondaries would be good for this list? I'm thinking Stranglehold, Psychic Interrogation/Warp Ritual annd... Nachmund Data?

[piersonsmuppet]

May 13, 2022 12:38:30 GMT N.I.B. said:

What secondaries would be good for this list? I'm thinking Stranglehold, Psychic Interrogation/Warp Ritual annd... Nachmund Data?

RND, Banners, Investigate, and teleport homers would all be good with that many action bodies. Engage could be pretty doable as well.

Edit: This list will prob become super common with the Mal/Encircle nerf. Kraken versions going to be the new hotness. Get ready for Kraken goodstuff! Though, maybe it won’t be as strong as Levi goodstuff was.

[ghostnids]

This must be the single most expensive nid list I've seen to date.

[Master Chief]

They are all 3 man units, I wouldn't take RND.

[N.I.B.]

Faced Space Wolves, I took Stranglehold, Psychic Interrogation and Cranial Feasting for laughs. Feasting suck big time, won't do that again. Maxed out Stranglehold but missed out of max Interrogation since his characters were dead by turn 5. Tabled him turn 5. I just had so much, dominated the center, everything expendable. I forgot several things but cruised to a big win. The custom traits were so bad, had no use of them.

[Jbizzy]

Finally the mid nid bugs can shine.

[bigpig]

Would be much stronger as leviathan for the trans I think

[piersonsmuppet]

May 15, 2022 3:57:16 GMT bigpig said:

Would be much stronger as leviathan for the trans I think

Kraken is likely better than Levi, as every unit can benefit from the speed and AP. Not sure Levi will prevent min-man Warriors from being wiped from objectives.